[EL] Technology to facilitate compliance
BZall at aol.com
BZall at aol.com
Mon Aug 15 07:59:30 PDT 2011
Oh, it's really much worse than that. I was going to stop flogging this
dead horse, but . . .
I just got off the phone with an even worse problem: even if you have
money, you are still out of luck if you are unpopular, or just at the wrong
time or place:
1) Guy calls me, on a referral from a national ballot initiative vendor. He
has the organization and the money to hire an experienced, capable
attorney to help craft and protect a ballot initiative to challenge a recent
County ordinance affecting his members. He knows he needs help, and desperately
wants it, because he has only two months left before his petitioning
deadline.
2) His is an unpopular cause right now (protecting unionized workers), and
despite the best efforts of national and local organizations, he can't find
any competent counsel to represent him and his members. His state law is
fiendishly-complex, his local jurisdiction has additional rules, and recent
court decisions are roiling it further. It's not something that
run-of-the-mill attorneys, or even national experts, can do on a short turnaround. He
knows his effort will get lit up sooner rather than later, and he's stuck
without an experienced attorney.
3) I have to turn him away. I sent him to the best guy I could, suspecting
that he'll just keep getting turned away. I feel pretty bad about it. To
him and his members, this is not "no big deal," just because it isn't going
to get in the NYT or WaPo.
The bottom line: we have a system crafted to catch "bad guys," however
defined, that does a far better job of stopping other people.
Barnaby Zall
Of Counsel
Weinberg, Jacobs & Tolani, LLP
11300 Rockville Pike, Suite 1200
Rockville, MD 20852
301-231-6943 (direct dial)
_www.wjlaw.com_ (http://www.wj/)
bzall at aol.com
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In a message dated 8/15/2011 10:35:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
BSmith at law.capital.edu writes:
Your position, as I understand it, has been that citizens are represented
through large organizations, such as the NRA, NARAL Pro-Choice, unions, and
large professional organizations. (We will not unduly harp on the fact
that for years many members of the reform community has demanded more
restrictions on PACs, at different times expressing a desire to abolish them).
Similarly, you have suggested that large corporations can afford large PACs.
And you have suggested that small corporations that have a PAC do so solely
for lobbying, ignoring the real point that a) virtually no such companies
have PACs because the combination of compliance and the restrictions on
fundraising make them impractical, and b) to the extent they are practicable,
they are only such if used for the limited purpose of supplementing lobbying,
rather than having a serious impact on political debate.
The point that Jim, Larry, I and others have been raising is that the
rules are a real hardship on small, often-spontaneous, grassroots activity.
Your response, and Doug's has been that this type of activity really isn't
very important. People who can't afford to hire Caplan-Drysdale aren't likely
to raise much money or have much influence anyway. As Doug suggested, maybe
if they can't handle the compliance, they should find other ways to
participate. This does have some truth to it, but it is not a normative position
I find inspiring and it is a position that reinforces the pull of large
entities and discourages, indeed is even dismissive of, the political
activities of citizens in everyday life.
The presence of large organizations exercising political influence simply
does not do away with the question of the effect of these laws on small
organizations, local party committees, small, volunteer-based campaigns, and
spontaneous citizen-directed and organized activites. Indeed, the dominance
of large organizations may reflect in some respects the difficulty of
organic, grassroots participation under the law.
Challenged to come forth with "proof" that more activity that might be
going on if there weren't these laws in place (not an easy task, to be sure,
since no one can no for sure) and the cost of compliance, we have presented
evidence of the cost of the compliance and evidence from our own
experiences that many people are discouraged from participation by these laws. Your
response, which amounts to "hey, stop complaining, they've got the NRA" is,
I take it, a concession of the point we originally raised, by you who have
insisted on calling us "plutocrats."
Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Designated Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
(614) 236-6317
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From: Trevor Potter [mailto:tpotter at capdale.com]
Sent: Mon 8/15/2011 9:43 AM
To: Smith, Brad; Volokh, Eugene; law-election at department-lists.uci.edu
Subject: RE: [EL] Technology to facilitate compliance
Brad:
I have said expressly the opposite. I assume others can read, and am
ending this thread.
Trevor
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