[EL] Congressman Weiner

[Doug Hess]

Reprimand, not censure, I guess is what I mean...as there is the
technical different in the US House.

Doug


On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Doug Hess <douglasrhess at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I guess if he sent nude pics or certain sexually suggestive text
> via government device, I might agree that that is the sort of thing
> that somebody should expect to get fired for in the private sector, so
> perhaps some sort of "no sexting with your tax-payer phone please"
> censure is in order.  But I fear that bloggers and web sites that give
> muckraking a bad name will make people "gun shy" of public office
> because anything can possibly be hung out in public. I would hate to
> know what government officials do with their per diem in Rio.
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Rob Richie <rr at fairvote.org> wrote:
>> If being stupid and/or lying about sex were a standard for forcing
>> politicians from office,it would indeed be interesting to see how many
>> Members of Congress would be left,
>>
>> As to Weiner using a government Blackberry for personal use as an excuse for
>> an ethical violation? Please -- does any Member of Congress ever text a
>> spouse to say he or she will be late for dinner or can't pick up the kids at
>> school?. Not to excuse his gross behavior, but this seems like a return to
>> the standards of Puritianical judges from Salem (something I take rather
>> personally, as a direct ancestor of mine was among those murdered by the
>> government as an alleged witch!).
>>
>> Rob
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Paul Gronke <paul.gronke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe if he used a government Blackberry or web access, though I'm not
>>> sure how they'd track the latter.
>>>
>>> It's unfortunate, I think, to see a pundit mention the "Chris Lee"
>>> standard in the NY Times:
>>>
>>> David Birdsell, dean of Baruch College’s School of Public Affairs in New
>>> York City, said it would be hard for Mr. Weiner to argue that his conduct
>>> was any less damning. “By the Chris Lee standard, these are offenses that
>>> merit resignation,” he said.
>>>
>>> No comment at all about whether such a standard is a reasonable one?
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Doug Hess wrote:
>>>
>>> > All joking aside, what is the reasoning or grounds behind starting an
>>> > investigation of the congressman (or the same with the NY GOP
>>> > congressman that had the shirtless pic on craigslist but I guess left
>>> > before it was investigated)?  That he sullied the image of congress?
>>> > It seems odd to go looking for bigger violations if there is not yet
>>> > any evidence of it (i.e., inappropriate romantic entanglements with
>>> > somebody that does business with congress, etc.).
>>> >
>>> > Doug
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