[EL] ELB News and Commenary 6/25/11

JBoppjr at aol.com JBoppjr at aol.com
Sat Jun 25 10:00:27 PDT 2011


I know it is the position of the Democrats asking the FEC for the Advisory  
Opinion that candidates can solicit up to 5K and they put that  
(meaningless) disclaimer on it.  However, the draft AO does not accept that  position 
and condemns any solicitation by a candidate for a Super PAC.  So my point 
stands, if this draft AO is accepted by the FEC, Reid and Kerry go  to jail 
(wrongfully).
 
I think the disclaimer you are referring to is also arbitrary and  
meaningless.  What does 5K have to do with a Super PAC?   Nothing.
 
Also, I always understood soft money to refer to unregulated money -- money 
 not subject to the FECA.  The solicitation ban we are talking about refers 
 directly to that.  It is at least confussing to refer to  federally 
regulated money as "soft money."  If it is "soft money" because  it is not subject 
to any contribution limits under the FECA, then independent  expenditures 
are soft money. No one in their right mind would say that. 
 
Trevor, good to have you defending what Reid and Kerry did. I would hate to 
 see them in orange.  Jim
 
 
In a message dated 6/25/2011 9:23:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tpotter at capdale.com writes:

"Soft  money" ( or sewer money, as the NY Times used to refer to it) is of 
course not  a legally-defined  term. However, it was used throughout the  
McCain-Feingold debate and litigation to mean corpprate and labor funds in  
federal elections, and unlimited individual funds. Those are precisely the  
soft money funds that SuperPacs can raise.

As to Senators Reid and  Kerry, their solicitation observed this 
delineation --their lawyers took care  that the solicitation stated  that they were 
NOT soliciting corporate or  labor contributions, or individual contributions 
over $5,000 (the individual  contribution limit to regular federal pacs).

Trevor Potter

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From:   JBoppjr at aol.com  [mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com]
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To: rhasen at law.uci.edu;  law-election at uci.edu
Subject:    Re: [EL] ELB News and Commenary  6/25/11

Super PACs are federally registered and regulated  PACs  that have no 
contribution limits. Soft money is federally  unregulated  money. Thus, 
Super PACs 
raise hard money that candidates  can  raise, not "soft money" that they 
usually cannot, as Rick  erroneously describes  it.

The other interesting  ramification of the FEC  adopting the General 
Counsel's predictably  very restrictive draft is that  Senators Reid and 
Kerry 
have already  solicited funds for a democrat Super  PAC.  
_Click  here:  Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid Solicits Cash for New 
Democratic  Super  PAC - OpenSecrets Blog | OpenSecrets_  
(http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/06/senate-majority-leader-harry-reid-s
olicits.html)    This 
solicitation was certainly  intentional, so criminal charges  could be 
brought. 
(Anyone wanta bet on the  Obama DOJ doing  that!)  But in any event it is a 
violation under the draft   AO.

This would be a ridiculous outcome but one that   would result if the 
FEC does not get this right and let candidates  do  this.  Jim Bopp   



_"Draft Limiting  'Super  PAC' Fund-Raising May Not Be FEC's Last Word on 
Question"_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19632)  
Posted on  _June 24,  2011_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19632)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

BNA_  reports_  
(http://news.bna.com/mpdm/MPDMWB/split_display.adp?fedfid=21191867&vname=mpe
bulallissues&fn=21191867&jd=a0c8e1d4d4&split=0)   on the 
draft advisory opinion on next week's agenda: "A draft   advisory opinion 
ruling 
released by the Federal Election Commission would  reject  a proposal to 
allow national officials to help so-called  Super PACs raise  unlimited 
contributions....However, FEC officials  said June 24 that they expect a  
competing 
draft to be released  before the FEC meets to consider the pending  
advisory 
opinion on  Super PAC fund-raising. The yet-unreleased draft may  conclude 
that  
there should be no restrictions on federal and party officials'   
fund-raising for these PACs." 
Let's be clear: that competing proposal  would get party leaders back into  
raising soft money. If the FEC  deadlocks again, and this leads to a green 
light  to such a turn of  events, it would be a very bad development in my  
opinion-reversing  the other pillar of McCain-Feingold. It is not clear to 
me  
whether  there could be preemptive court action if, as I expect could well  
 
happen, the FEC deadlocks on this issue on party lines.  


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In a message dated 6/24/2011 10:48:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,  
rhasen at law.uci.edu writes:


_"Whether White  can  serve as secretary of state to be decided Tuesday"_  
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19643)  
Posted  on _June 24,  2011_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19643)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

See _here_  
(http://www.nwitimes.com/news/state-and-regional/indiana/article_e0209164-ff
c4-5b4c-b606-60282735cd51.html)  .  

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_To the Georgia  Secretary of State: Please Show Me Evidence  that a Voter 
ID Law Would Stop the  Kind of Fraud You Find and  Prosecute_ 
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19641)  
Posted  on  _June 24, 2011_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19641)  by _Rick 
 
Hasen_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

SOS Kemp, in  WaPo_  letter to the editor_  
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-voter-id-laws-keep-elections-hon
est/2011/06/22/AGS6UkjH_story.html
)  : "Mr. Dionne argued that photo ID and related  election-security laws  
are not needed because voter fraud 'is not a major  problem.' As  chairman 
of 
the Georgia State Election Board, I can attest that   every year we 
investigate and penalize hundreds of people guilty of  election  and voter 
fraud, and 
we work with county district attorneys  to prosecute them  on criminal 
charges."  


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vidence%20that%20a%20Voter%20ID%20Law%20Would%20Stop%20the%20Kind%20of%20Fra
ud%20You%20Find%20and%20Prosecute&description=)  


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, 
_fraudulent fraud  squad_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=8) , _voter id_ 
 
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_"Illinois's  controversial redistricting map becomes law;  GOP will sue"_ 
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19638)   
Posted  on _June 24, 2011_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19638)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

The Hill's Ballot Box  blog_  reports._  
(http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/redistricting/168397-illinois-proposed-
redistricting-map-becomes-official)   


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_Remember the Obama  Micro-Donors?_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19635)  
Posted  on _June 24,  2011_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19635)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

_LA  Times_  
(http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0625-obama-donors-2011
0625,0,1065791.story)  : "A new program called Presidential 
Partners asks supporters to   commit $75,800 to the Obama Victory Fund, a 
joint 
project of the campaign  and  the Democratic National Committee."  


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_"Draft Limiting 'Super  PAC' Fund-Raising May Not Be FEC's  Last Word on 
Question"_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19632)   
Posted  on _June 24, 2011_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19632)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

BNA_  reports_  
(http://news.bna.com/mpdm/MPDMWB/split_display.adp?fedfid=21191867&vname=mpe
bulallissues&fn=21191867&jd=a0c8e1d4d4&split=0)   on the 
draft advisory opinion on next week's agenda: "A draft   advisory opinion 
ruling 
released by the Federal Election Commission  would  reject a proposal to 
allow national officials to help  so-called Super PACs  raise unlimited 
contributions....However, FEC  officials said June 24 that they  expect a 
competing 
draft to be  released before the FEC meets to consider the  pending 
advisory  
opinion on Super PAC fund-raising. The yet-unreleased draft  may  conclude 
that 
there should be no restrictions on federal and party   officials' 
fund-raising for these PACs." 
Let's be clear: that  competing proposal would get party leaders back into  
raising soft  money.  If the FEC deadlocks again, and this leads to a  
green  
light to such a turn of events, it would be a very bad development in  my  
opinion-reversing the other pillar of McCain-Feingold.  It  is not clear  
to me 
whether there could be preemptive court action  if, as I expect could  well 
happen, the FEC deadlocks on this issue  on party lines.  


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_A Courageous Statement  on Voter ID Bill from Republican  Ohio Secretary 
of 
State_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19628)   
Posted  on _June 24, 2011_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19628)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE  
Friday, June 24, 2011 
SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED STATEMENT ON PHOTO  ID  LEGISLATION 
COLUMBUS - The following may be attributed in whole  or in part to  
Secretary of State Jon Husted regarding the photo  identification 
legislation  
pending in the General Assembly.   
"I want to be perfectly clear, when I began working with the General   
Assembly to improve Ohio's elections system it was never my intent to  
reject  
valid votes. I would rather have no bill than one with a  rigid photo  
identification provision that does little to protect  against fraud and  
excludes 
legally registered voters' ballots from  counting. 
"It is in the hands of the General Assembly."  
-30-


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_Adler Predicts a  Likely Cert. Grant in Renzi Case_  
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19623)  
Posted  on _June 24,  2011_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19623)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

_Here_  
(http://volokh.com/2011/06/24/circuit-split-over-speech-and-debate-clause/) 
 .   I'm inclined to agree. 
UPDATE: Mike Stern _too_  
(http://www.pointoforder.com/2011/06/24/a-cert-worthy-speech-or-debate-case/
)  .  


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_"Soros and liberal  groups seeking top election posts in  battleground 
states"_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19620)   
Posted  on _June 24, 2011_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19620)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

The Washington Times has  this very interesting _report_  
(http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/23/section-527-works-to-seat-l
iberals-as-election-
ove/)  .  


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_Will  ColbertNation  Invade the FEC?_ 
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19617)  

Posted  on _June 24, 2011_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=19617)  by _Rick 
Hasen_  (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  

_Could  be._  
(http://www.rollcall.com/news/fec_seeks_to_clarify_rules_for_super_pac-20677
4-1.html?pos=htmbtxt)   You can read two draft opinions to be 
considered by the FEC at its   June 30 meeting _at this link_  
(http://fec.gov/agenda/2011/mtgdoc_1138a_and_b.pdf) .  


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