[EL] Check out Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free Success, After Calls fr...
Dale Eisman
DEisman at CommonCause.org
Wed Sep 28 14:22:35 PDT 2011
Interesting that this "very credible report" quotes only one source
(unnamed) who insists "There was not any pressure to take down the ad."
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Dale Eisman
Senior researcher/writer
Common Cause -- Holding Power Accountable
1133 19th St NW
Washington, D.C. 20036
202 736-5788
From: Smith, Brad [mailto:BSmith at law.capital.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:13 PM
To: Dale Eisman; JBoppjr at aol.com; law-election at uci.edu
Subject: RE: [EL] Check out Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free Success,
After Calls fr...
Well, we have a very credible report from the newspaper that most
heavily covers the auto industry that this is so, no other explanation
for the company pulling the ad, and boilerplate, what else could they
possibly say denial from the White House. In the recent past, Common
Cause has called for full investigations on much less.
Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Designated Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
(614) 236-6317
http://www.law.capital.edu/Faculty/Bios/bsmith.asp
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Eisman [mailto:DEisman at CommonCause.org]
Sent: Wed 9/28/2011 10:22 AM
To: JBoppjr at aol.com; Smith, Brad; law-election at uci.edu
Subject: RE: [EL] Check out Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free Success,
After Calls fr...
I go back to my original point. No one has provided any evidence of
government "retaliation" here; all we have are inferences and innuendos.
Ford spoke and some of the President's friends allegedly spoke back. We
do not ask citizens to take a vow of silence when they go on the public
payroll.
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Dale Eisman
Senior researcher/writer
Common Cause -- Holding Power Accountable
1133 19th St NW
Washington, D.C. 20036
202 736-5788
From: JBoppjr at aol.com [mailto:JBoppjr at aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:10 AM
To: Dale Eisman; BSmith at law.capital.edu; law-election at uci.edu
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After Calls fr...
I am perplexed by the Common Cause response to this. The First
Amendment protects citizens from government retaliation for their
political speech. So it is a oneway ratchet. All citizens enjoy this
freedom against the government and it needs to be zealously guarded. So
this is not the "give and take" that "what we expect and welcome in a
free society." This is antithetical to a free society.
Unfortunately, there appears to be a partisan response to this
event, but such "questioning" of political speech by high ranking
governmental officials because of it content can occur with any
administration.
Further, this demonstrates the danger of "mere-disclosure." Of
course, Ford cannot avoid it here, but it is inevitable that government
officials will want to threaten and intimidate their perceived "rivals"
and those who might criticize them. And, as if they needed the
encouragement, CC thinks that is just peachy. Jim Bopp
In a message dated 9/27/2011 11:12:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
DEisman at CommonCause.org writes:
One would think that folks who spend millions of dollars on ads
touting their "built Ford tough" trucks wouldn't be so easily
intimidated.
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Dale Eisman
Senior researcher/writer
Common Cause
1133 19th St. NW
Washington, D.C.
202 736-5788
-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, Brad [mailto:BSmith at law.capital.edu]
Sent: Tue 9/27/2011 6:13 PM
To: Dale Eisman; law-election at uci.edu
Subject: RE: [EL] Check out Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free
Success,After Calls from White
I recall a few years back when reformers just howled and howled
and
howled because Senator McConnell had the gall to urge
corporations not
to support groups that sought to limit their First Amendment
rights.
Russ Feingold took to the floor of the Senate, saying it "smacks
of
intimidation." Reformers were apoplectic. EJ Dionne even wrote
a
column. I guess the "persuasive" power of government isn't so
scary when
it's used against the other guy.
Look, we welcome give and take in ideas. We don't welcome
private calls
by the White House to people in heavily regulated industries,
competing
against government owned companies, suggesting that maybe they
shouldn't
be running their ads.
Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault
Designated Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 East Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43215
(614) 236-6317
bsmith at law.capital.edu <mailto:bsmith at law.capital.edu>
http://www.law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.asp
<http://www.law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.asp>
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[mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf
Of Dale
Eisman
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:34 PM
To: JBoppjr at aol.com; rhasen at law.uci.edu; law-election at uci.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] Check out Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free
Success,After Calls from White
Since when is free speech a one-way street? Ford produced an ad
that
took a shot at the President and one of his signature programs.
Some of
the President's men took exception to that. Such give and take
is what
we expect and welcome in a free society.
If there is evidence the President's friends used or threatened
to use
the government's power to silence or punish Ford, let's hear it
-
please. All we've got here, so far anyway, is circumstance and
assumptions.
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Dale Eisman
Senior researcher/writer
Common Cause -- Holding Power Accountable
1133 19th St NW
Washington, D.C. 20036
202 736-5788
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Of
JBoppjr at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:28 PM
To: rhasen at law.uci.edu; law-election at uci.edu
Subject: [EL] Check out Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free
Success,After
Calls from White
Click here: Ford Pulls Ad Touting Bailout-Free Success, After
Calls from
White House - By Daniel Foster - The Corner - Nationa
<http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/278478/ford-pulls-ad-touting-bailo
ut-free-success-after-calls-white-house-daniel-foster>
This is a reprehensible violation of freedom of speech by the
Obama
White House and an example of what will happen to those who are
"DISCLOSED" to be on the "wrong" side of government policy. Jim
Bopp
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