[EL] D.C. requires voters at polls to sign a register
JBoppjr at aol.com
JBoppjr at aol.com
Mon Apr 9 11:04:05 PDT 2012
When I first heard about voter ID laws I thought they were a very modest
proposal -- not much harm but also not much beneficial effect, since I was
much more familiar with absentee ballot fraud. I have become convinced that
there really must be something that I was missing because of the
over-the-top rhetoric of those opposing Voter ID laws. See Prof McDonald's post
below calling O'Keefe a "coward" and saying he is not really serious about this
since he is not willing "to face jail, abuse at the hands of police, and
even death." I think O'Keefe made his point without getting beaten up by
the police and I for one am willing to listen to anyone's point of view
without them having to get arrested before I do. Jim Bopp
In a message dated 4/9/2012 1:40:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mmcdon at gmu.edu writes:
I would disagree. I have an older version of the DC voter file on my
computer, complete with names and addresses. It should be easy for anyone
connected to a campaign (and thus have the motivation) to obtain the
addresses and names of all the registered voters.
However, as I thought about this more, O’Keefe is nothing more than the
neighborhood kid who lights a bag of poo on the porch and runs away. He
doesn’t consummate the actual act of burning down a house because the
penalties are way too steep. Until he demonstrates how he can burn down a
house by changing the outcome of an election with a massive impersonation
fraud scheme and he and his co-conspirators are willing to pay the
consequences for it, then he only remains an annoying pranking kid. If he
felt this was such an important issue that he was willing to face jail,
abuse at the hands of police, and even death, then he would be equal to the
heroes who participated in the civil rights movement and won many of the
voting protections we have today. If anything, the coward demonstrates that
the penalties in place are a sufficient deterrent to prevent the abuse he
seeks to expose.
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Dr. Michael P. McDonald
Associate Professor, George Mason University
Non-Resident Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
Mailing address:
(o) 703-993-4191 George Mason University
(f) 703-993-1399 Dept. of Public and International Affairs
mmcdon at gmu.edu 4400 University Drive - 3F4
http://elections.gmu.edu Fairfax, VA 22030-4444
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[mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Jerry
Wei
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:50 PM
To: richardwinger at yahoo.com
Cc: law-election at uci.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] D.C. requires voters at polls to sign a register
Voters in DC also are asked to confirm their address upon check-in. If they
cannot name their address on the voter register, the voter fills out a
special ballot pending an official government or institutional document
proving address.
It was probably easy for Project Veritas to find Holder's home address, but
it would be much harder for someone/an organization intending to affect an
election using impersonation fraud to accumulate enough addresses and match
them to registered voters to make much of a difference in the result.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Richard Winger <richardwinger at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I just phoned the District of Columbia Board of Elections, and was told
that
when voters appear at a polling place, they must sign a register in order
to
receive a ballot. This is relevant to the message this morning that
someone
walked into a polling place in D.C. at the April 3 primary and falsely
claimed to be US Attorney General Eric Holder. The person did not follow
through and actually attempt to vote. But in order for him to receive a
ballot, he would have had to sign in, and his signature could later have
been compared to the real Eric Holder's signature on voter registration
records.
Richard Winger
415-922-9779
PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
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