[EL] D.C. requires voters at polls to sign a register

JBoppjr at aol.com JBoppjr at aol.com
Mon Apr 9 11:04:05 PDT 2012


When I first heard about voter ID laws I thought  they were a very modest 
proposal -- not much harm but also not much beneficial  effect, since I was 
much more familiar with absentee ballot fraud.  I have  become convinced that 
there really must be something that I was missing because  of the 
over-the-top rhetoric of those opposing Voter ID laws. See Prof  McDonald's post 
below calling O'Keefe a "coward" and saying he is not  really serious about this 
since he is not willing "to face jail, abuse at the  hands of police, and 
even death." I think  O'Keefe made his point without  getting beaten up by 
the police and I for one am willing to listen to anyone's  point of view 
without them having to get arrested before I do.  Jim  Bopp
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2012 1:40:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mmcdon at gmu.edu writes:

I would  disagree. I have an older version of the DC voter file on my
computer,  complete with names and addresses. It should be easy for anyone
connected  to a campaign (and thus have the motivation) to obtain the
addresses and  names of all the registered voters.

However, as I thought about this  more, O’Keefe is nothing more than the
neighborhood kid who lights a bag of  poo on the porch and runs away. He
doesn’t consummate the actual act of  burning down a house because the
penalties are way too steep. Until he  demonstrates how he can burn down a
house by changing the outcome of an  election with a massive impersonation
fraud scheme and he and his  co-conspirators are willing to pay the
consequences for it, then he only  remains an annoying pranking kid. If he
felt this was such an important  issue that he was willing to face jail,
abuse at the hands of police, and  even death, then he would be equal to the
heroes who participated in the  civil rights movement and won many of the
voting protections we have today.  If anything, the coward demonstrates that
the penalties in place are a  sufficient deterrent to prevent the abuse he
seeks to  expose.

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Dr. Michael P. McDonald
Associate Professor,  George Mason University
Non-Resident Senior Fellow, Brookings  Institution

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From:  law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu
[mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu]  On Behalf Of Jerry
Wei
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:50 PM
To:  richardwinger at yahoo.com
Cc: law-election at uci.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] D.C.  requires voters at polls to sign a register

Voters in DC also are asked  to confirm their address upon check-in. If they
cannot name their address  on the voter register, the voter fills out a
special ballot pending an  official government or institutional document
proving address.

It  was probably easy for Project Veritas to find Holder's home address, but
it  would be much harder for someone/an organization intending to affect  an
election using impersonation fraud to accumulate enough addresses and  match
them to registered voters to make much of a difference in the  result.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Richard Winger  <richardwinger at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I just phoned the District of  Columbia Board of Elections, and was told 
that
when voters appear at a  polling place, they must sign a register in order 
to
receive a  ballot.  This is relevant to the message this morning that  
someone
walked into a polling place in D.C. at the April 3 primary and  falsely
claimed to be US Attorney General Eric Holder.  The person did  not follow
through and actually attempt to vote.  But in order for him  to receive a
ballot, he would have had to sign in, and his signature could  later have
been compared to the real Eric Holder's signature on voter  registration
records.

Richard Winger
415-922-9779
PO Box  470296, San Francisco Ca  94147

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