[EL] Lead Penn Voter ID Plaintiff gets her ID

Fri Aug 17 07:49:22 PDT 2012

Jeff's poll results are fascinating -- Jeff, is this a CCES poll that you fielded, or can you point me to the researcher who did field the poll or the publication that reports these results? I'm in the middle of writing a piece on voting rights for Handbook of American Political Development (Oxford University Press, forthcoming), and would appreicate any leads. My off-list email is rvalell1 at swarthmore.edu. 

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From: "Jeffrey D. Milyo" <milyoj at missouri.edu> 
To: law-election at uci.edu 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:44:59 AM 
Subject: Re: [EL] Lead Penn Voter ID Plaintiff gets her ID 

One might think that everyone agrees with Joe and Rick (“all eligible voters should be allowed to vote”), but apparently not… without endorsing the public’s opinion, I present for your consideration: 

>From the 2011 CCES, a nationally representative poll of 1,000 persons:* 

1. People should not be allowed to vote if… 
1a. They go to the wrong polling place: 42% agree; 38% disagree 
1b. They can’t speak English: 53% agree; 31% disagree 
1c. They can’t produce current identification: 74% agree; 13% disagree 
1d. They have recently been convicted of a felony: 48% agree; 28% disagree 
and 
2. People that are not well informed about the issues should not vote: 46% agree; 29% disagree 
(that disqualifies me) 

*survey questions are paraphrased for ease of presentation here 

Jeff Milyo 

From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Joe La Rue 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:20 AM 
To: Rick Hasen 
Cc: law-election at uci.edu 
Subject: Re: [EL] Lead Penn Voter ID Plaintiff gets her ID 

I agree, Rick, with your hope that the State sets appropriate guidelines to aid this process. Although you and I disagree as to whether there ought to be voter photo ID laws, we are in complete agreement that ALL eligible Americans should be allowed to vote. 

Joe 
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Rick Hasen < rhasen at law.uci.edu > wrote: 

I hope that the state has set forth uniform rules for how to take age and other factors into consideration. One thing studies have demonstrated is that there is not uniformity in local election administration, when local election officials are given discretion over how to administer the rules. 

On 8/17/12 7:15 AM, Joe La Rue wrote: 

Interesting development in the Penn Voter ID case: the lead plaintiff, who said she wouldn't be allowed to get an ID, just got one . 
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The day after a judge upheld Pennsylvania's new voter identification law, the lead plaintiff in the suit seeking to block the law went to a PennDot office and was issued the photo ID card she needs to vote. 
Nothing has changed since Viviette Applewhite, 93, testified in July. The law stands. She still doesn't have a driver's license or Social Security card. The name on her birth certificate is still different from the name on her other documents - all of which, under the law, should have barred her from getting her photo ID. 

But at precisely 1:16 p.m. Thursday, she got it anyway. 

The State did just what has been saying it would do: it took "age and other factors into consideration" and got this lady her ID so she could vote. I wonder if the other plaintiffs might be able to do the same thing? 

Joe 
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