[EL] Mitt's returns & Obama's records

Joe La Rue joseph.e.larue at gmail.com
Sun Aug 19 21:17:08 PDT 2012 

And perhaps that is likewise a reason for Mr. Romney to not release his tax
returns: "people like you" (your words, Sir, your words) won't believe
them, so what's the point of releasing them?

Joe
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On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Fredric Woocher <fwoocher at strumwooch.com>wrote:

>  The reason the President won't release his college records is probably
> because people like you, and Donald Trump, and Orly Taitz, and "America's
> Sheriff" won't believe what's in those records anyway, and will next claim
> that they are a forgery.
>
>  And if you think there's an equivalence between Obama's college
> transcript or the title of his thesis and Romney's tax returns, well that's
> just sad.
>
>  Fredric D. Woocher
> Strumwasser & Woocher LLP
>
>
> Sent from my IPad
>
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 10:59 PM, "Joe La Rue" <joseph.e.larue at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   In answer to Estelle Rogers, these records have been sought --
> repeatedly -- as far back as during the leadup to the 2008 presidential
> election<http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/>.
> Mr. Obama, however, has refused to allow them to be released<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html>.
> The question, of course, is, *why*? One supposes that it is not because
> his grades were bad. He was, after all, granted admission first to Columbia
> and then Harvard Law, which doesn't normally happen to those with subpar
> grades. So, if it's not grades, what is it in the records that Mr. Obama
> does not want the public to see?
>
> I don't know; I haven't seen the records. But one suggestion that I think
> plausible is that the president enrolled at Columbia as a foreign student
> from Indonesia and accepted aid designated for foreign students. If that is
> so, that would amount to fraud, wouldn't it (assuming, of course, that he
> was a United States citizen)? And, Brian Landsberg, if the future president
> claimed to be a foreign national, that might have implications for election
> law, wouldn't it? For an interesting explanation of this theory, see
> http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%e2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/
> .
>
> Of course, that whole theory might be rubbish. President Obama might have
> listed himself as a U.S. citizen when he attended Columbia, and he may have
> completely innocent reasons for not wanting anyone to see his records. Or
> perhaps he just thinks it's nobody's business. Regardless, Mr. Obama won't
> release the records. And, that is his right: there is no law requiring him
> to release these records. My original email was to highlight the hypocrisy
> of the president, who refuses to release his own records while demanding
> that Mr. Romney release records he, likewise, is not required to release. I
> also wanted to highlight the hypocrisy of the media, which is engaged in a
> full-court-press vetting of Mr. Romney, but has left many questions about
> Mr. Obama unvetted and unanswered.
>
> Finally, Ms. Rogers, the "U. of Columbia" was obviously meant to be
> Columbia University. I was typing quickly, on an iPhone, and simply got the
> name wrong.
>
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> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Brian Landsberg <blandsberg at pacific.edu>wrote:
>
>>  Finally, one might hope, what does this have to do with election law?
>>  Nothing, I would venture.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:41 PM, "Estelle Rogers" <erogers at projectvote.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   Not to mention, what is the U. of Columbia?  And if the records from
>> said institution, whatever and wherever it is, are so interesting to Mr. La
>> Rue, why weren't they sought the first time Obama ran for elective office,
>> or the second, or the third?  And why, pray tell, haven't you asked for the
>> President's kindergarten transcript?  Who knows what evil is lurking there?
>>
>> Estelle Rogers
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:06 PM, "henry weinstein" <<henryelliotweinstein at gmail.com>
>> henryelliotweinstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Pardon my curiosity but just what sort of fraud do you have in mind
>> regarding Obama's Columbia records? His grades from his time at Occidental
>> College (the college he attended before transferring to Columbia)? His
>> grades at Columbia?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Joe La Rue < <joseph.e.larue at gmail.com><joseph.e.larue at gmail.com>
>> joseph.e.larue at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting theory the Guardian has about Mitt. Of course, they fail to
>>> say that Mitt has no legal obligation to release the tax returns Obama
>>> wants. Regardless, I have a proposition: how about Mitt agree to release
>>> the returns, right after Obama releases his records from the U of Columbia,
>>> including his admissions records. He's been hiding those with nary a word
>>> from the media. Some of us think there must be a reason he's hiding them.
>>> There are several non-Birther theories to explain why Obama doesn't want us
>>> to see those records, each of which, if true, might derail the President's
>>> re-election (and at least one of which would implicate the president in
>>> fraud). So, let's see media calls for Obama to release his records, too.
>>> Then Mitt can release his returns. Sound fair?
>>>
>>>  “Mitt Romney’s tax returns: the ‘voter fraud’ theory”<http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38771>
>>> Posted on August 17, 2012 9:01 pm <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38771>
>>> by Rick Hasen <http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
>>>
>>> The Guardian <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/17/mitt-romney-tax-returns-voter-fraud-theory?newsfeed=true>reports
>>> with the subhead: “There has been much speculation about why Romney refuses
>>> to disclose earlier tax returns. Could it be as simple as an address?”
>>>
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