[EL] In the spirit of the old listserv

Edward Still still at votelaw.com
Mon Aug 27 14:44:58 PDT 2012


I know from looking at and using pre-1965 voting records, Alabama did ask
for the race of each voter. When the federal voter registrars showed up in
Jefferson County in 1965 or 66, they refused to ask or record the race of
the applicant.



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On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Gaddie, Ronald K. <rkgaddie at ou.edu> wrote:

>  All eleven southern states had either laws or constitutional provisions
> for the white primary.
>
> Examples:
> Louisiana established a white primary in 1923.
> Alabama had a white primary and consciously discarded it in 1946.
> Mississippi tried to revise its existing white primary in 1947 to make it
> constitutional.
> Arkansas instituted a white primary in the 1920s, and tried to use a
> jaybird primary in the late 1940s.
> Florida adopted a white primary in 1902.
> North Carolina had the white primary on a county-by-county basis.
>
>
>   Ronald Keith Gaddie, Ph.D.
>  Professor of Political Science
> Editor, *Social Science Quarterly*
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> *From:* Richard Winger [richardwinger at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* mmcdon at gmu.edu; law-election at uci.edu; Gaddie, Ronald K.
>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] In the spirit of the old listserv
>
>    That can't be the full answer, because the white-only primary was
> formally only in Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina.  But North Carolina
> and Louisiana have long published voter registration data by race.  They
> still do, I think.  But they have been doing that for decades.  I already
> privately e-mailed Heather that Louisiana had to sort voters by race
> because Louisiana once had a law saying the race of each candidate should
> be printed on the ballot.  That law was struck down by the US Supreme Court
> in 1964 in Anderson v Martin.
>
> Richard Winger
> 415-922-9779
> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/27/12, Gaddie, Ronald K. <rkgaddie at ou.edu>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gaddie, Ronald K. <rkgaddie at ou.edu>
> Subject: Re: [EL] In the spirit of the old listserv
> To: "mmcdon at gmu.edu" <mmcdon at gmu.edu>, "law-election at uci.edu" <
> law-election at uci.edu>
> Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
>
> It is due to the whites' only primary.
>
>
> Ronald Keith Gaddie, Ph.D.
> Professor of Political Science
> Editor, Social Science Quarterly
> The University of Oklahoma
> 455 West Lindsey Street, Room 222
> Norman, OK  73019-2001
> Phone 405-325-4989
> Fax 405-325-0718
> E-mail: rkgaddie at ou.edu <http://UrlBlockedError.aspx>
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> http://socialsciencequarterly.org
>
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> law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu<http://UrlBlockedError.aspx>]
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> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:53 PM
> To: law-election at uci.edu <http://UrlBlockedError.aspx>
> Subject: Re: [EL] In the spirit of the old listserv
>
> Could they be related to the White-only primary? One would imagine that
> poll
> watchers would have been more effective to produce the desired outcome, but
> perhaps with absentee voting in-person voter registration was the best
> point
> to police the primaries.
>
> ============
> Dr. Michael P. McDonald
> Associate Professor, George Mason University
> Non-Resident Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
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> On Behalf Of Gerken,
> Heather
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:31 PM
> To: law-election at uci.edu <http://UrlBlockedError.aspx>
> Subject: [EL] In the spirit of the old listserv
>
> All,
>
> In the spirit of the old listserv, I'm writing to ask a non-rhetorical
> question.  A political scientist at Yale, Eitan Hersh, is doing research on
> the racial identifiers that are public record on the voter files in eight
> southern states.  He's trying to identify the origin of these racial
> identifiers.  Some people think that they are tied to VRA data collection
> requirements, but Hersh hasn't found any evidence of that suggestion.
> Moreover, the collection of the data in some of the states predates the
> VRA, and  some covered jurisdictions don't collect reach information on the
> voter files, while others do.  It's an interesting question, and I was
> hoping that the many lawyers and academics on the list who were involved in
> the early cases might have an answer for Professor Hersh. The paper can be
> found
> her,
> http://www.eitanhersh.com/uploads/7/9/7/5/7975685/racialized_electionee
> ring.pdf.  If you happen to have a lead, I'd appreciate off-list answers
> that I could forward to Professor Hersh.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Heather Gerken
>
>
>
> Heather Gerken
> J. Skelly Wright Professor of Law
> Yale Law School
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> New Haven CT  06511
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