[EL] States in Play
Doug Hess
douglasrhess at gmail.com
Tue Aug 28 15:32:56 PDT 2012
I think Nate Silver's charts and maps (I assume they are his) on the right
hand side of his blog at the NYT tells the story very well.
Douglas R. Hess, PhD
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Marty Lederman <lederman.marty at gmail.com>wrote:
> Does anyone know if the campaigns are making significant investments in
> any states other than Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Wisconsin, Colorado, Nevada,
> New Hampshire, and Iowa -- and, I suppose, possibly Michigan, North
> Carolina and/or Pennsylvania?
>
> Or are those 8-11 states where all the action (that is, uncertainty) is?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Rob Richie <rr at fairvote.org> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> This provides a chance for FairVote to do some mild chestbumping.
>>
>> In December 2008, we released a report on what we called the shrinking
>> battleground that we saw as having been demonstrated in the 2008 election.
>> Dan Tokaji was filling in for Rick that day in blogging, and below is how
>> he linked to it on the election law blog -- introducing our report by
>> saying "countering the conventional wisdom..."
>>
>> What we saw in 2008 was what this election cycle has confirmed: that in a
>> really close year, the number of states with a chance of tipping the
>> election had in fact decreased in 2008 rather than increased. The fact that
>> Barack Obama won by more than 7% gave an misleading impression of some
>> states being in play that in fact wouldn't have been in play if the
>> national margin had been more like it had been in 2000 or 2004.
>>
>> Missouri and Indiana are states that COULD have been competitive this
>> year, with relatively small shifts toward Democrats, but instead they seem
>> to have shifted slightly the other way. Indeed, that seems to be the
>> pattern. Most states that show a partisan shift are shifting farther away
>> from the 50-50 competitive line rather than toward it.
>>
>> As it is, most analysts see fewer than 10 real swing states right now -
>> perhaps as few as 7. None are surprises, based on the 2008 data. And none
>> of the non-swing states are surprises either -- if I were to pick on state
>> that I would have thought would be seen as more competitive in 2012 than
>> most people say it is, I would say Minnesota.
>>
>> See more in the report linked below.
>> Rob
>>
>> http://electionlawblog.org/?m=200812&paged=3
>> “2008′s Shrinking Battleground” <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=11667>
>> Posted on December 5, 2008 5:37 am <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=11667>
>> by Dan Tokaji <http://electionlawblog.org/?author=5>
>>
>> Countering the conventional wisdom, FairVote argues in this press release<http://fairvote.org/tracker/?page=27&pressmode=showspecific&showarticle=230> that
>> “2008 marked a record low in the number of competitive states since 1960
>> and a record high in the number of completely non-competitive states.”
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Doug Hess <douglasrhess at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is not a psephology list, but I wonder why MO and IN are
>>> viewed by many to be strongly Romney states. Granted, IN going for
>>> Obama in 2008 was surprising (at least to me, and I suspect others).
>>> And MO in 2008 was won by McCain by the skin of his teeth. But why are
>>> both states considered out of Obama's reach now (see Nate Silver's
>>> summaries of polls and some predictions in the link)?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/aug-25-an-above-average-likely-voter-gap-for-romney/#more-33647
>>>
>>> Doug
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