[EL] query about white Southern voters in 2012

John Tanner john.k.tanner at gmail.com
Tue Dec 4 07:03:39 PST 2012


>From a quick look at the map, one striking thing is that the erosion of
once-heroic Democratic support in the Southern coal counties that began in
2000 is now complete, at least at the presidential level.  It's  a mirror
of the switch from Republican to Democratic as the UMW organized the mines
in each county way back when.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM, John Tanner <john.k.tanner at gmail.com> wrote:

> David Bositis at the Joint Center had some data (e.g., only 10% of whites
> voted for Obama in 2008), but I don,t see it on their web site. I would
> like to see it.
>
> I really would like to see the precinct returns for the MS Delta
> elections, as I'm not sure that they mean all that the Op-Ed contends.  It
> has never been all that unusual for white candidates at the local level to
> win a share of the black vote - enough to win with disparities in voter
> turnout and near-unanimous white support.  That has been especially true in
> the Delta.  Some black leaders blame it on a "Plantation Mentality".  I
> know of a number of specifc precincts where past election results strongly
> support the plantation mentality thesis (although they are mostly
> rural.)  And there always have been instances of white candidates being the
> 1st choice of black voters for some time.  For that matter, there also are
> isolated examples of black candidates winning in heavily white areas,
> including to legislatures from NE MS and, most remarkably, James Fields
> (who is a terrific person) from a 98% white House district in Cullman
> County  AL.   The NY Times did a story on those electiosn a while back.
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
>
>> In response to a recent blog post about African-Americans in the south
>> being willing to vote for white candidates, and its potential relevance
>> for the Shelby County VRA section 5 case before the Supreme Court,  a
>> reader asked me about cross-racial voting going the other way: southern
>> White voting for Obama and for black gubernatorial and other
>> African-American candidates.
>> I recall seeing some statistics on Obama v. Kerry among Southern whites
>> but I cannot find that reference now.   I'd appreciate pointers to that
>> comparison, and any relevant statistics or literature.
>> Thanks.
>>
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