[EL] A nation of sissies!/ Re: The enemies list, then and now

Steve Klein stephen.klein.esq at gmail.com
Mon Jul 23 07:18:55 PDT 2012


I believe, in regards not so much to contributions but independent
expenditures and issue advocacy, that it's just as wimpy (if not more so)
to use a bunch of anonymous "sissies" as basis for onerous campaign finance
codes that shut out the courageous and the cowardly alike. The assertion is
always available in public debate that secret funding and anonymous
sources make an argument less credible -- some agree, some don't.

I always thought the Constitution was meant to protect our weakest citizens
as much as the strongest-- certainly a progressive sensibility. Perhaps we
could add the "stay out of the kitchen" line to the amendments proposed
following *CU*?


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:25 AM, David A. Schultz
<dschultz at gw.hamline.edu>wrote:

> Justice Scalia is often fond of declaring that the purpose of the First
> Amendment is to promote robust debate.  I agree with him.  But at the same
> time that the First Amendment gives individuals a right to say whatever
> they want, it also means others have a right to respond, hold you
> accountable, and even say you are crazy for your position.  Maybe you get
> mocked, teased, or satirized, but all that is part of what robust debate in
> a free society is about.
>
> I say this because I fear that the debate about disclosure is exposing us
> to be a nation of wimps!  The arguments being presented here seem to
> suggest that I should be protected from any type of criticism or
> controversy surrounding my political contributions.  I am sorry but the
> First Amendment does not insulate that.  Yes real harassment--such as
> lynchings or cross burnings in front yards as was feared in the NAACP v.
> Alabama case--are something we should worry about, but teasing, taunting,
> publishing a list of names, boycotts, all of that is part of the robust
> debate surrounding the First Amendment that we should expect.  I hate to
> steal Truman's line "But if you can't stand the heat. . ."  If you cannot
> take the legitimate public scrutiny or criticism surrounding your political
> contribution then stay out of politics.  As Scalia once said about
> administrative law one can also say about politics--it ain't for sissies!
>
> On another note:  Please remember that NAACP v. Alabama ruled in that case
> that case that membership lists of non-profit organizations were protected
> by the First Amendment against government exposure because of the unique
> aspects of the organization and the facts of the cases demonstrating real
> possibility of reprisal.  The case did not rule that donor lists were
> protected by the First Amendment, unless I missed something.
>
>
>
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> >>> David Epstein <david.l.epstein at gmail.com> 07/23/12 8:10 AM >>>
> This is it? Seriously? After reading the column, I see that someone
> (presumably wealthy) who donated money to Romney has been audited. I
> also see that an Obama "campaign website" listed some donors along
> with aspersions on their characters, but (tellingly), there is no link
> provided to this website. If someone has the link, I'd be happy to
> follow that too, but my guess is that it wasn't published by the
> actual Obama campaign.
>
> Pretty thin gruel, definitely on the level of internet urban legends
> rather than actual news.
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, <JBoppjr at aol.com> wrote:
> > Click here: The enemies list, then and now | Power Line
> >
> > Interesting story about harassment of contributors triggered by the
> > Obama campaign.
> >
> > Opps, on second thought, don't read, we have been authoritatively told
> > that this does not happen. Jim Bopp
> >
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