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[Steve Hoersting]

Michael,

So you're saying, voter ID should be excused because the ID requirement
makes people vote by mail, where there *really* is fraud.

Your argument sounds analogous to the freedom side in the campaign-finance
debate: All of these restrictions on candidates and parties are driving
speech to independent interests.

Except for this major difference: Having the independents speak was never
corrupting (or fraudulent). Seems that's where your warning about voter
fraud breaks down.

A downside to voter ID is not that it encourages mail fraud, as both can be
remedied. Now, if you'd like to couch your arguments against voter ID in
terms of disenfranchisement of the .... well, you fill in the blank, I'll
gladly listen.

Steve

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Michael McDonald <mmcdon at gmu.edu> wrote:

> Or should we say, say a falsehood 1,000 times in an attempt to make it
> true.
>
> A number of us on the list serve are on record of repeatedly stating ON THE
> LIST SERVE and in the media that Republican photo id laws have the
> unintended (?) effect of increasing fraud by encouraging more people to
> vote
> mail ballots, where we know that fraud is much more likely to occur.
>
> We’ve got three conservatives so far stating a falsehood, so just 997 to
> go.
>
>
> ============
> Dr. Michael P. McDonald
> Associate Professor
> George Mason University
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> Fairfax, VA 22030-4444
>
> 703-993-4191 (office)
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>
> From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu
> [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of
> Benjamin
> Barr
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 10:05 AM
> To: Steve Hoersting
> Cc: law-election at uci.edu
> Subject: Re: [EL] Check out New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer
> caught
> helping activist v
>
> Repeat 1,000 times and it becomes true!  B.
> Sent by my Android device. Please excuse any typographical errors.
> On Oct 12, 2012 10:03 AM, "Steve Hoersting" <hoersting at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no such thing as voter fraud.
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Benjamin Barr <benjamin.barr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Thanks, Jim.  I recently signed James O'Keefe and Project Veritas as
> clients.  Expect more great work on exposing voter fraud and problems with
> voting integrity as we push ahead to November and beyond!  While so many
> allege this fraud never happen or is unlikely to, James' work offers a
> great
> insight to reality on the ground.  Stay tuned!
>
> Forward,
>
> First Amendment Ben
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, <JBoppjr at aol.com> wrote:
> Click here: New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer caught helping
> activist vote twice | The Daily Caller
>
> Obama campaign caught red handed participating in voter fraud by helping
> voters vote in two different states in this election.  And some say there
> is
> no voter fraud!  Jim Bopp
>
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