[EL] Check out New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer caught helping a...

[Benjamin Barr]

Hold up the horse here...

Is Trevor arguing that *too many government regulations* impede the
exercise of constitutionally protected conduct (you know, like having to
fill out dozens of pages of PAC filings just to speak, that sort of thing)?

I think I sense a solution.

Forward,

First Amendment Ben


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Trevor Potter <tpotter at capdale.com> wrote:

> Jim's answer eludes the extremely narrow definition of "photo ID" in many
> of these laws noted in my earlier email. No college photo IDs--even from
> state universities? No check cashing photo  IDs? No government effort to
> provide IDs to people who don't have drivers licenses--and thus by
> definition cannot drive to motor vehicle offices?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:45 AM, "JBoppjr at aol.com" <JBoppjr at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  This is a good example of what I mean, Trevor "protest too much." Are we
> really to now believe that going to the BMV is such a big burden to get a
> picture ID, when you cannot hardly ever cash a check without one?  To get a
> picture ID that you will need hundreds of time over your life time to do
> many simple things?  Really!  Jim Bopp
>
>  In a message dated 10/12/2012 10:39:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> tpotter at capdale.com writes:
>
>  “Voter ID” is, of course, an imprecise term. Most states required some
> form of “voter ID” years ago (signatures in polling books, production of
> utility bills, affidavits of identity, etc)—just not a “government issued
> photo ID, not to include a photo ID issued by a college or University”. So
> the question is what TYPE of “voter ID” is required, and what is its
> effect. As Jim Thurber has written recently, even “government issued photo
> ID” would not be a burden on voters  if the government affirmatively and
> aggressively made it available to all voters (as Mexico does) rather than
> blocking those without drivers licenses by requiring  appearance in person
> at scarce and overwhelmed motor vehicle department offices...****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:
> law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] *On Behalf Of *Scott F.
> Bieniek
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 10:23 AM
> *To:* <law-election at uci.edu>law-election at uci.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] Check out New O'Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer
> caught helping activist v****
>
> ** **
>
>    1. Assume a significant portion of the public believes that our polls
>    are insecure and that in-person voter fraud is a problem.****
>    2. Assume that voter id addresses this appearance of in-person voter
>    fraud.****
>
>  Does Voter ID, which at least addresses this appearance of in-person
> voter fraud, not justify its enactment?****
>
> ** **
>
> After all, the appearance of corruption is a major argument in support of
> compelled campaign finance disclosure. I mean, if we say that all our
> elected officials are on the take, they must be on the take.****
>
> ** **
>
> -Scott F. Bieniek****
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Joe La Rue < <joseph.e.larue at gmail.com>
> joseph.e.larue at gmail.com> wrote:****
>
> You beat me to it, Steve. I was going to say that. Frankly, I'm
> disappointed in Jim and Ben. They've obviously not been paying attention to
> the List Serve. After all, if you say it enough ("There is no such thing as
> voter fraud") it MUST be true.
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Joe
> ___________________
> *Joseph E. La Rue*****
>
> cell: 480.272.2715
> email: <joseph.e.larue at gmail.com>joseph.e.larue at gmail.com****
>
> ** **
>
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