[EL] Nothing unusual here?

[Steve Hoersting]

Justin, respectfully, the questions are these:

1) How many of those persons in the story are citizens who can vote?

And 2) if any are voting who aren't citizens -- eligible under current law
because they present a Columbia-Gas bill to an Ohio election worker and
check a box -- will be disqualified before the losing candidate in a tight
contest concedes the election?

Really, this is an election-law list to which we're posting. Don't say you
don't understand the issues at stake, the importance of momentum in the
closest battleground, or the importance of margins.

If this were a list of, say, auto enthusiasts or of pinochle, I would
understand,  and most likely agree with, your wrap-yourself-in-the-flag
retort. Given the context, however, it won't do.

Cordially,

Steve

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Justin Levitt <levittj at lls.edu> wrote:

>  I'm not sure which laws implicated in the story are "new and relaxed."
> And I think what Richard was suggesting is that if the concern is that the
> only available translators are Democrats, the Republicans might want to
> find themselves a Somali translator.  If your mom speaks Somali, and feels
> like translating, good for her -- I'm not aware that translators have to be
> citizens under the law.
>
> By the numbers cited in the story (which I've not confirmed), there are in
> Ohio at least 18000 American citizens of Somalian descent.  At least 6750
> of them have limited English proficiency.  And they have to parse (among
> other things) a redistricting initiative<https://vote.franklincountyohio.gov/voter/ballots/SAMPLE_0036.pdf>that spans three columns of the ballot if they want to exercise their civic
> responsibilities.
>
> They have come to the polls, received materials protected by the First
> Amendment outside of an electioneering zone, and sought to vote according
> to the governing federal and state laws, including a federal law permitting
> translation assistance at the polls that has been enforced by both Democratic
> and Republican administrations at the DOJ<http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/litigation/recent_208.php>
> .
>
> Whether any of this activity is unusual depends entirely on where you live
> and who you hang out with, I suspect.  But there's nothing in the report
> that I can see that leads to any conclusion that there's anything
> unlawful.  Maybe "what's going on here" is citizens expressing their right
> to vote for their representatives.  I'm not suspicious of that sort of
> thing during an election.
>
> Justin
>
>
> On 10/27/2012 10:36 AM, Steve Hoersting wrote:
>
> Yes, Richard: My Mom is a Canadian. She "works for", such as it is, "the
> Republican side."
>
>  She doesn't vote, however. And no one picks her up in a van.
>
>  Trying honestly to determine what is going on here... in a State
> everyone agrees is the battleground... voting under new and relaxed voting
> laws,
>
>  Steve
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Richard Winger <richardwinger at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>   The Ohio Republican Party or the Romney campaign probably has the
>> resources and ability to find Somali-speaking persons who would work for
>> the Republican side, especially if there are that many Somali-speakers in
>> Ohio.
>>
>> Richard Winger
>> 415-922-9779
>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 10/27/12, Steve Hoersting <hoersting at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Steve Hoersting <hoersting at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [EL] Nothing unusual here?
>> To: law-election at uci.edu
>> Date: Saturday, October 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-in-ohio/
>>
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