[EL] Voter fraud? What voter fraud!?! Nothing to see here, people. Move along.

[dasmith]

indeed, i agree with rick that there are other serious issues regarding 
the fraudulent use of absentee ballots here in florida.

yet, ironically, as michael herron and i discovered and documented in 
early november, we have found several cases of super-conscientious 
absentee voters subsequently disenfranchising themselves if they moved 
to another county and updated their addresses on the voter file, but did 
so before the county canvassing board in their former county tabulated 
their absentee ballots.

we discuss this loophole in florida's election code here: 
http://electionsmith.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/exclusive-glitch-in-floridas-voter-registration-system-can-disenfranchise-absentee-voters/

i'm hopeful that the state legislature will address this Catch-22 in the 
coming legislative session, as it is mentioned as item 2 of additional 
considerations for reform in the florida secretary of state's list of 
recommendations, found here: 
http://www.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/2-4-2013_Recs_for_Increased_Accessibility_and_Efficiency_in_FL_Elections.pdf

dan

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On 2/8/2013 10:44 AM, Rick Hasen wrote:
> I don't know any serious person studying this issue who says there is 
> no election fraud.  The vast majority of the relatively small number 
> of cases involve either election officials committing fraud, or 
> voters, candidates, and others committing absentee ballot fraud.
> The problem is that the supposed cure---voter id---does not stop these 
> main types of fraud.
> If John Fund and others started a serious push to eliminate the use of 
> absentee ballots, then I would take their concerns about voter fraud 
> much more seriously. But it is not a part of the antifraud measures 
> proposed and adopted by those who claim this is a major problem.
>
> On 2/8/13 7:35 AM, Joe La Rue wrote:
>> This is not directed at Rick, who has candidly acknowledged that 
>> voter fraud does, sometimes, happen.  But there are others who say 
>> that "voter fraud" is nothing but an invention of those who want to 
>> suppress voters by requiring photo ID.  Worse, some say that it is an 
>> invention to keep minorities from voting. Well, for all who say that 
>> voter fraud never, ever, happens, here's another example of that 
>> "non-existent" phenomenon. 
>> http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340174/voter-fraud-never-happens-keeps-coming-back-john-fund
>> Joe
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