[EL] "FEC Deadlock Derail Matters"

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Mon Feb 18 11:02:06 PST 2013


Craig, if it is true that the 3-3 votes are  "not pro-Democratic or  
pro-Republican; they are ideological," which I also think they are, then why do  
you refer to them as "partisan?" If they are ideological then the fact that 
they  line up as Repubs on one side and Dems on the other is just  
coincidental. but referring to them as "partisan" is misleading also since  it implies 
that they are for political purposes. So why the "partisan" label?  Jim Bopp
 
 
In a message dated 2/18/2013 9:15:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
holman at aol.com writes:



Hi Justin:

Nearly all of the split votes are 3-3, but  there are some cases in which a 
commissioner recused him- or herself, so a  split vote could be 3-2. The 
split votes are not pro-Democratic or  pro-Republican; they are ideological. 
The Republican members have consistently  voted to prevent enforcement of 
much of the law against anybody, regardless of  party.

I have not tried doing a content analysis of the matters subject  to a 
vote. Though it would be interesting to try to see if specific content  matters 
are subject to the deadlock phenomenon, the primary point behind these  
numbers is already made.






Craig Holman, Ph.D.
Government Affairs  Lobbyist
Public Citizen
215 Pennsylvania Avenue SE
Washington, D.C.  20003
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Holman at aol.com




-----Original  Message-----
From: Justin Levitt <jml269 at connect.yale.edu>
To:  law-election <law-election at department-lists.uci.edu>
Sent: Sun, Feb  17, 2013 9:36 pm
Subject: Re: [EL] "FEC Deadlock Derail Matters"


Two sincere questions, both pertinent to a paper  I'm editing at the moment.

1:  Craig, in your chart, are all of  the "split" votes 3-3, along party 
lines?  That is, are any of the  instances of the 25 splits in 2012 
cross-party or 4-2 decisions?  (And is  the updated chart available online?)

2:  If plausible differences  in constitutional and/or statutory 
interpretation aren't the cause of the  splits, why aren't all of the enforcement 
votes 3-3 (or at least all of the  enforcement votes targeting entities 
perceived as aligned with Republicans or  Democrats)?  That is, what explains why 25 
votes in 2012 were splits, but  110 weren't?

Justin

On 2/17/2013 9:09 PM, Smith, Brad  wrote:


No,  just the misrepresentation of why they occur and what they mean.


Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault
   Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
614.236.6317
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From: Craig Holman [_holman at aol.com_ (mailto:holman at aol.com) ]
Sent: Sunday,  February 17, 2013 8:40 PM
To: Smith, Brad; _law-election at uci.edu_ (mailto:law-election at uci.edu) 
Subject:  Re: [EL] "FEC Deadlock Derail Matters"


So, Brad, the numbers do indeed frustrate you.  




Craig Holman, Ph.D.
Government Affairs  Lobbyist
Public Citizen
215 Pennsylvania Avenue SE
Washington, D.C.  20003
T-(202) 454-5182
C-(202) 905-7413
F-(202) 547-7392
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-----Original  Message-----
From: Smith, Brad _<BSmith at law.capital.edu>_ 
(mailto:BSmith at law.capital.edu) 
To:  law-election _<law-election at uci.edu>_ (mailto:law-election at uci.edu) 
Sent:  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: [EL] "FEC Deadlock Derail  Matters"


Craig's  post, like the Bloomberg BNA story that launched this thread, also 
 demonstrates why it is so hard for people to understand the FEC.   


The debate in the Agency is rather obviously not between those who  
"believe in the law and  those who don't" (unless Craig means to put he and all the 
reformers who  don't believe in Citizens United and other Supreme Court 
decisions in the  latter camp), but between different understandings of what 
the law requires  and/or permits. For years the regulatory speech camp which 
Craig represents  has sought to portray the FEC as a fight of good against 
evil, and to  suggest that anyone who doesn't agree with their particular 
interpretations  of the law is in actuality simply refusing to enforce the law. 
Most of the  lawyers on this list, however, are sophisticated enough to 
understand that  "the law" is not what a handful of advocacy groups seeking more 
regulation  say it is (a kind of "brooding omnipresence," apparently), but 
rather what  Congress has actually passed and how it is interpreted by the 
body assigned  by Congress to administer it, subject to judicial review. Even 
error is not  a malignant refusal to do one's duty, but that possibility 
seems not to  occur to the anointed.  
 


For years many persons in the self-described  "reform community" have 
regularly maligned, in the most casual, off-hand  manner, and deeply cynical 
manner, the integrity of all those who disagree  with them on what the law 
requires or permits. It's a low-rent  practice that ought to stop. 


Meanwhile, Public Citizen's press release again  cynically tries to sell 
this as a problem of "partisanship" rather than one  of ideology. A 3-3 vote 
is a 3-3 vote, but in thinking about whether and how  it matters (no doubt 
Craig would be happier if 4 commissioners "did not  believe in the law" and 
the votes were 4-2), it is important whether in fact  it is simply raw 
partisanship on display or whether there are legitimate (or  even illegitimate) 
disagrees about the meaning of the law and its proper and  best 
interpretations. It is true that the ideological division breaks along  partisan lines. And 
having accused the "reform community" of cynicism,  perhaps I am myself too 
cynical in presuming that Public Citizen likes the  "partisan" spin simply 
because they see that as getting more traction with  the public and 
credulous journalists. But I believe it is a conscious spin  because they recognize 
that when they say the issue is "partisan," people  will think that 
Commissioners from each party are simply protecting their  own, rather than having 
serious debate over the law. It is quite obvious (at  least to all those who 
seriously follow the Commission, including Craig)  that any problem is not 
because Commissioners from each party simply seek to  protect their own. But 
that sounds better than saying that the law operates  in a difficult area of 
First Amendment liberties, and there is no easy  answer to issues of 
corruption in politics. 


It would also be interesting to go back and  look at how little the 
argument of the anti-FEC lobby has changed. When the  percentages of 3-3 votes were 
much lower (see Craig's charts), as during my  time on the Commission, we 
heard exactly the same arguments alleging  "partisan gridlock" etc. etc. that 
we hear today. This might lead one to  think that while it is (for Craig, 
at least) a happy coincidence that 3-3  votes are increasing, that's not 
really what is important to most critics.  What is important is to explain away 
the failures of the regulatory regime  in a way that does not suggest a 
complex issue of First Amendment liberties  and practical realities. 
Commissioners come and go; Presidents come and go;  General Counsels come and go. There 
is legislation and there are judicial  decisions, and the Supreme Court 
swings towards greater deference to the  First Amendment and then away, then 
back again. "Loopholes" are eliminated  and new ones discovered. But one thing 
is always the same - the failure of  the reform project to acheive 
meaningful improvements in government or in  positively affecting the lives of 
citizens is not a problem with the law or  the underlying principles of "reform," 
but with the people selected to run  things, who simply don't believe in 
"the law." To consider that possibility  would truly turn worlds upside down.



 
 
Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault
   Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
614.236.6317
_http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx_ 
(http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx) 


  
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I just updated the figures on FEC split votes. Besides the numbers that  so 
frustrate Brad -- of which I need not debate, the numbers speak for  
themselves -- are the numbers of radically declining actions. The FEC is not  just 
immobilized between those commissioners who believe in the law and  those 
who don't (the deadlock numbers), it is actually deadlocking on far,  far 
fewer actions under consideration.

So, while split votes on  enforcement matters has increased eight-fold, the 
number of actions under  consideration has plummeted ten-fold. 

The dysfunction within the  commission clearly is demoralizing the staff of 
the agency as well. Though I  have the highest regard for the staff, it is 
hard to work well when the  commissioners will not.

Updated chart is attached.




Craig Holman, Ph.D.
Government Affairs  Lobbyist
Public Citizen
215 Pennsylvania Avenue SE
Washington, D.C.  20003
T-(202) 454-5182
C-(202) 905-7413
F-(202) 547-7392
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-----Original  Message-----
From: Smith, Brad <_BSmith at law.capital.edu_ (mailto:BSmith at law.capital.edu) 
>
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<_law-election at uci.edu_ (mailto:law-election at uci.edu) >
Sent:  Sat, Feb 16, 2013 5:19 pm
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This  is the type of reporting that is so frustrating.   


First, if a faculty, for example, has a rule requiring a two-thirds  vote 
for tenure, we wouldn't normally say that a 19-13 vote "derailed"  tenure. 
Indeed, if you had a simple majority rule, we wouldn't usually say  that a 
16-16 vote was a "deadlock." We would say the person was denied  tenure. If the 
House votes 216-216 on a measure, we don't say it  "deadlocked," we say the 
measure lost.


Similarly, when the FEC votes 3-3 not to find reason to believe, it has  
not found reason to believe that the law was broken, the predicate for an  
investigation under the statute.


Second, the article not only tells us that the Commission "deadlocked,"  
but that it "deadlocked along party lines." Factually accurate, true. But  
pretty much everyone who follows the Commission agrees that partisanship is  
not the reason for 3-3 votes. It would be sort of like writing, "President  
Obama today nominated one Republican and one Democrat to seats on the  
FEC...," and leaving it at that. Such an act would not really be a  demonstration 
of bipartisanship, but if it were not explained later why he  nominated a 
Republican, it is simply misleading. 
 


Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault
   Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
614.236.6317
_http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx_ 
(http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx) 


  
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_“FEC  Deadlocks Derail Matters Involving Crossroads GPS, Family-Member 
Super  PAC”_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=47362)  
Posted  on _February 15, 2013 5:50 pm_ 
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=47362)   by _Rick  Hasen_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)  
 
_Bloomberg BNA_ 
(http://news.bna.com/mpdm/MPDMWB/split_display.adp?fedfid=29745575&vname=mpebulallissues&jd=a0d6m0d6q4&split=0) :

The Federal Election Commission dismissed two cases involving  allegations 
of illegal coordination between congressional candidates and  outside 
spending groups after the commissioners deadlocked along party  lines regarding 
whether the cases should be investigated, the FEC  announced Feb. 15.
One case involved Crossroads GPS, among the most prominent  
Republican-leaning nonprofit groups involved in recent campaigns.  Designated Matter Under 
Review (MUR) 6368, the case involved allegations  that the group’s founder, 
Republican strategist Karl Rove, illegally  coordinated efforts with 
then-Rep. Roy Blunt’s (R-Mo.) successful 2010  campaign for U.S. Senate.
The other case (MUR 6611) involved a super PAC funded by the mother  of 
Laura Ruderman, an unsuccessful Democratic candidate for the U.S.  House in 
2012. The case was the FEC’s first consideration of a  single-candidate PAC 
financed by the candidate’s family, according a  written statement from three 
of the commissioners.

 
 
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FEC%20Deadlocks%20Derail%20Matters%20Involving%20Crossroads%20GPS,%20Family-Member%20Super%20PAC”&description=) 


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