[EL] Reply to Bev Re: Has NIST Lied about Internet Voting Insecurity?

wjk wjkellpro at aol.com
Fri Mar 8 12:22:33 PST 2013


Hi Bev! Nothing like instant criticism w/o reading.  The paper is being presented at a panel at the Western Political Science Association this month. Its ready for the most critical scrutiny a scholar can give it.  But, of course, it has to be read first. In fact, NIST has done exactly what Bev has just done. W/o doing any scientific research, NIST put its name on a copy of the old 2004 SERVE Security Report by Avi Rubin, David Jefferson, David Wagner, and Barbara Simons.
Bev's deliberate ignorance is forgivable, but not that of NIST. WJK
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Today's Topics:

   1. Has NIST Lied about Internet Voting Insecurity? (wjk)
   2. Has NIST Lied about Internet Voting Insecurity? (wjk)
   3. Re: Has NIST Lied about Internet Voting Insecurity? (Bev Harris)
   4. Further clarification on mislabeled "study" on Internet
      voting (Bev Harris)
   5. ELB News and Commentary 3/8/13 (Rick Hasen)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:42:05 -0500 (EST)
From: wjk <wjkellpro at aol.com>
Subject: [EL] Has NIST Lied about Internet Voting Insecurity?
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A new study of Internet voting in the USA reveals that the National Institute of 
Standards and Technology (NIST) has MISREPRESENTED its ?research? on Internet 
voting security. Complete study at http://ssrn.com/abstract=2229557 
(free, safe download of PDF)
 
William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.
Political Scientist, author, speaker,
CEO for The Internet Voting Research and Education Fund 
Blog: http://tinyurl.com/IV4All 
Twitter: wjkno1
 
Author of Internet Voting Now!  
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Date: Thu,  7 Mar 2013 18:16:20 -0600
From: Bev Harris <bev at blackboxvoting.org>
Subject: Re: [EL] Has NIST Lied about Internet Voting Insecurity?
To: wjk <wjkellpro at aol.com>
Cc: law-election at department-lists.uci.edu
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Oh for heaven sake. You are referring them to your OWN paper, and you seem to
post on the Web only for the purpose of promoting Internet voting. The least
you could do when posting a link like this is to say "My new study reveals
that..."

> A new study of Internet voting in the USA reveals that the National Institute
> of Standards and Technology (NIST) has MISREPRESENTED its ???research??? on
> Internet voting security. Complete study at http://ssrn.com/abstract=2229557
> (free, safe download of PDF)
>
> William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.


Bev Harris
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Message: 4
Date: Thu,  7 Mar 2013 18:33:40 -0600
From: Bev Harris <bev at blackboxvoting.org>
Subject: [EL] Further clarification on mislabeled "study" on Internet
	voting
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William Kelleher, whose primary work online is promotion of Internet voting,
just posted to the Election Law list a link to "a study" (his own paper, which
is not a study, but rather, a footnoted editorial) which he says debunks the
NIST position on Internet voting.

The biggest and most fatal defect of Internet voting is lack of transparency,
which is a different issue than security, and Kelleher's paper never mentions
transparency problems at all; but even if it is the security controversy that
floats your boat, the opinion piece is a political scientist writing about
encryption and computer security, both specialized fields not in his academic
area of expertise.

Just thought I'd check in on this in case people glanced at the misleading
statements about "NIST misrepresentations" and assumed there is more weight to
the self-published and self-described "study" than there actually is.

Best,

Bev Harris
Founder - Black Box Voting
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

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