[EL] Attention fellow totalitarians...

Justin Riemer jjustinriemer at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 07:05:32 PDT 2014


This is definitely not election law related, but this recent article by
Ross Douthat gets into the thinking of why a lot of conservatives (myself
included) can only shake their heads when hearing assertions that we are
the ones trying to stifle speech or intellectual debate. While the article
is mainly focused on religious liberty, it is applicable to this
discussion:
http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/19/the-challenge-of-pluralism/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0



On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, <demesqnyc at aol.com> wrote:

> I think Steve hits it dead on, this is more an attack on academia than on
> political opinion.  Some (not those on this list) find the free exchange of
> ideas, the search for provable truth and the refusal to give primacy to
> partisan point of view threatening.  Whether it is on voter rights issues
> or climate change, there is a new wave of attacking academics, using legal
> procedures to make expression costly, and demonizing them in an effort to
> stifle speech.
>
>  As a committed lefty, I support this list serve as well.  Let all voices
> be heard.
>
> Howard Leib
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Klein <stephen.klein.esq at gmail.com>
> To: Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu>
> Cc: law >> law-election at uci.edu <law-election at uci.edu>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 17, 2014 1:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [EL] Attention fellow totalitarians...
>
>  It's ironic to complain that in a free forum participants are choosing
> where to concentrate their efforts; that's the whole idea. The "government
> servers" thing is little more than red meat for those who don't understand
> or respect academia.
>
>  I staunchly oppose campaign finance laws. I support this listserv.
> Cheers.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
>
>>    Interesting Perspective on Election Law Listserv from Non-Participant
>>  Posted on April 17, 2014 10:03 am by Rick Hasen
>>   I wonder if the many conservatives on the election law listserv would
>> agree with these points made by J. Christian Adams:
>>
>> *S*o who are the speech regulators seeking to impose government limits
>> on the exercise of the First Amendment?
>> Like bats in the belfry, they tend to congregate online at University of
>> California at Irvine Law Professor Rick Hasen’s election blog.
>> Hasen runs an online meeting hall for all the would-be speech
>> totalitarians. They post, bluster, and kibitz about the latest news on
>> their effort to erode the First Amendment and increase federal power.
>> Whenever a free speech advocate seeks to contribute to the conversation at
>> the blog, they are often deliberately given a cold shoulder and ignored,
>> per plan. The ignored don’t understand that leftists aren’t interested in
>> debate. Their pedigree requires the eradication of opposing ideas, not
>> their incubation.
>> But perhaps the ignored should be thankful. Being ignored is better than
>> what the speech regulators have done in other places throughout history.
>> Jail and truncheons are the usual tools of those who want to stamp out free
>> speech. In America, the speech regulators have just begun to warm up to
>> jail as a tool.
>> That Hasen’s online hangout is hosted on *government servers* provides an
>> interesting twist.
>> Judicial Watch sent the University of California at Irvine a freedom of
>> information request demanding Hasen’s emails to the White House and other
>> government officials including any on the topic of speech regulations. The
>> University told Judicial Watch to pound sand, and still hasn’t provided
>> anything.
>> [image: a]
>> Yesterday’s IRS email revelation makes you wonder what Cal-Irvine is
>> hiding.
>> So who are some of the other speech regulators who haven’t shown up on
>> IRS scandal documents yet?
>>
>>  [image: Share]
>>   Posted in Uncategorized
>>
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>> UC Irvine School of Law
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