[EL] buying candidates?
Richard Winger
richardwinger at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 31 17:42:07 PDT 2014
The problem with yearning for equality of candidates and voters, relative to money, is that even setting money aside, candidates and voters can't be equal. Some candidates have a huge advantage because one or both of their parents, or a grandparent, held important public office. Some candidates were or are stars in the sports or entertainment world.
Also, some candidates have ties with organizations, and members of those organizations will contribute free labor.
Some candidates are connected with law firms, media companies, or accountants and the candidate can count on getting free advice and free labor from those associates.
Some candidates are physically attractive and others aren't. I doubt John McCain would have chosen Sarah Palin for vice-president if she had been plain looking.
Voters aren't equal either. Some voters are in a position to influence many other voters, through associations. Also some voters are in low population states so those voters have disproportionate influence over who gets elected to the U.S. Senate. Some voters are in swing states so those voters have disproportionate influence over who gets elected President. Some voters are in US House districts that are swing districts.
Elections evolved because hereditary monarchy was a flawed system. Elections also evolved as substitutes for armed conflict. No one ever thought elections were a perfect means for determining who should have state power; it's just that they were better than other methods.
Instead of the government telling individuals and groups how they can spend their money, relative to election campaigns, we should have public funding of campaigns, and every voter should receive government-administered neutral voters' pamphlets that contain not only sample ballots, but statements by the candidates and political parties and proponents and opponents of ballot measures. A handful of states already send such voters' pamphlets.
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From: Robert Wechsler <catbird at pipeline.com>
To: Benjamin Barr <benjamin.barr at gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [EL] buying candidates?
We don't feel guilty or ashamed that we've made money in free market.
This isn't about making money in a free market. It is about spending money in a market that is not free: the election of those who manage our communities. If this market were free, then people could buy each other's votes. If you are unflinching in your inclination toward liberty, how can you oppose the purchasing of votes?
I would like to see the purchase of votes be part of the discussion. After all, that's really what the discussion is about.
Robert Wechsler
City Ethics
On 10/31/2014 4:54 PM, Benjamin Barr wrote:
Professor,
Some of us are stricken with an unflinching inclination toward liberty. We'd prefer that a free people be able to speak as they see fit, pool their resources together as they'd like, associate in commonality as they enjoy, and otherwise engage in the American experiment.
We don't feel guilty or ashamed that we've made money in free market. We welcome the Steyers, Kochs, and Soros of the world to compete for our attention and shake up the public mind. We aren't afraid of their ideas. We welcome unions, corporations, trial attorneys, and coal producers to share their thoughts, even when they use silly names. We believe in free exchange and citizens capable of self-government.
We also realize that the surest path to tyranny is found in displacing this precious liberty held by Americans with the unilateral voice of government to decide who has "political power or who gets elected."
Forward, and a Happy Halloween to all!
Benjamin Barr
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Schultz, David A. <dschultz at hamline.edu> wrote:
I will chime in late on this debate since I was working.
The difficulty of us to really draw the lines between permissible use of money to influence candidates or races and impermissible uses (buying candidates or bribery) might suggest that it is impossible to do so because it may be a distinction without a difference. This may thus speak to the core issue that I repeatedly bring up but which most of you chose to simply ignore: i.e., perhaps it is not legitimate for people to use money or convert over economic resources into political resources or perhaps it is simply not legitimate to make money the allocative factor that determines who has political power or who gets elected.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
I have changed this subject heading to something more descriptive.
On 10/31/14, 11:25 AM, Benjamin Barr wrote:
Brad's on to something here.
There's an awful example of this going on in Texas right now (and something I'm working on with the Wyoming Liberty Group folks). The case is Cary v. Texas and is in the Fifth District appellate court. It involves a crew of people who improperly funded a judicial campaign. But instead of having the state slap them with violations of its Election Code and Judicial Campaign Fairness Act, they're going after one of the funders under criminal bribery, "organized crime," and Texas' favorite money laundering laws to pursue 14 years of jail for him.
Prosecutors there believe you can sidestep the state's campaign finance laws because the giving of money to "run for office" and "continue to run for office" constitutes bribery and organized criminal activity in their eyes. It's worth pausing to read that again. Make one mistake in how you decide to fund a candidate for office and you're not dealing with campaign finance violations (pesky in and of themselves); you're facing 14 years in the slammer.
There's a careful sort of delineation, constitutionally mandated, in nearly every state's bundle of anti-corruption laws. Bribery and criminal offenses are the proverbial jackhammers here. They prevent immediate quid pro quo arrangements and include pesky things like heightened evidentiary standards and burdens of proof that some prosecutors don't like very much. Campaign finance laws, aimed at preventing future quid pro quo arrangements and serving limited informational interests, regulate with much more precision and more lightly given the important First Amendment interests at stake.
It's time to get over the notion that Americans coming together to support policies and politicians they prefer are engaged in criminal activity. Its destroying real people who get caught up in this nonsense.
Forward,
Benjamin Barr
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Smith, Brad <BSmith at law.capital.edu> wrote:
So Democrat Jones announces he is running for Senate, and states plainly, "I don't agree with most of my party on campaign finance reform. I oppose amending the constitution, and I oppose the DISCLOSE Act." Larry Lessig says, "This will hurt Jones in getting the Democratic nomination. Mayday PAC will support Jones' opponent."
That's "buy[ing] the candidate's policy decisions"?
Isn't that more accurately called "opposing a candidate you disagree with"?
"Right to Life will oppose candidates who support abortion rights. Support for abortion rights will hurt a candidate in Republican primaries." That's bribery?
Bradley A. Smith Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Professor of Law Capital University Law School 303 E. Broad St. Columbus, OH 43215 614.236.6317 http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx From: Tyler Creighton [tyler at rethinkmedia.org]
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To acquire candidate Smith's silence or opposition to the carbon tax by paying for ads supporting candidate Smith or by promising to pay for ads attacking him.
Tyler Creighton | tyler at rethinkmedia.org | Media Associate
ReThink Media | (202) 449-6960 office | (925) 548-2189 mobile @ReThinkDemocrcy | @ReThink_Media | @TylerCreighton
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Svoboda, Brian (Perkins Coie) <BSvoboda at perkinscoie.com> wrote:
The universal unconscious scores again, because this discussion comes while I am reading Dan Lowenstein’s “When Is a Campaign Contribution a Bribe?”, republished in Heffernan and Kleinig’s Private and Public Corruption. It seems to me that Professor Lowenstein’s five hypotheticals would provide a useful framework for this debate. Perhaps the listserv’s monthly robo email could include a hyperlink to Professor Lowenstein’s article, which never seems to go out of season. =B. Brian Svoboda | Perkins Coie LLP PARTNER 700 Thirteenth Street, N.W. Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005-3960 D. +1.202.434.1654 F. +1.202.654.9150 E. BSvoboda at perkinscoie.com From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Smith, Brad
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Subject: Re: [EL] more news 10/30/14 You have a curious interpretation of "buy." You seem to be exactly the kind of person I was referring to. Bradley A. Smith Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Professor of Law Capital University Law School 303 E. Broad St. Columbus, OH 43215 614.236.6317 http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx From: Tyler Creighton [tyler at rethinkmedia.org]
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Cc: Reuben, Richard C.; Rick Hasen; law-election at UCI.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] more news 10/30/14 The President of AFP seems to confirm that big spending for a candidate (or the threat of big spending against a candidate) is in fact to buy the candidate's policy decisions. In NYT today:
Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity, said his group intends to aggressively work against Republicans who support a carbon tax or regulations in the 2016 presidential primary campaigns. “They would be at a severe disadvantage in the Republican nomination process,” Mr. Phillips said. “We would absolutely make that a crucial issue.”
Tyler Creighton | tyler at rethinkmedia.org | Media Associate ReThink Media | (202) 449-6960 office | (925) 548-2189 mobile @ReThinkDemocrcy | @ReThink_Media | @TylerCreighton On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Smith, Brad <BSmith at law.capital.edu> wrote: This actually strikes me as pretty tame compared to what I've seen, so maybe the future is now. But it is a shame that over the years so many have labored so hard to convince Americans that if someone contributes to an officeholder's campaign, it is proof that the officeholder is bought and that the officeholder's decisions are not based on the merits, the officeholder's ideology, or the perceived desires of constituents, but simply the wishes of donors. Bradley A. Smith Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Professor of Law Capital University Law School 303 E. Broad St. Columbus, OH 43215 614.236.6317 http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] on behalf of Reuben, Richard C. [ReubenR at missouri.edu]
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Subject: Re: [EL] more news 10/30/14 Apologies if this has already been posted, but I thought you might like to see the future of judicial campaigns, as played out today in a judicial election in Cole County, Mo. This one is obviously very ugly, and there is still time yet before the election. From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Hasen
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