[EL] disclosure

[Steve Hoersting]

There are readers at many levels of interest, so let me say one more thing.

In terms of 21st century jurisprudence, the "Super Groups" should have been
compelled to disclose their IEs under section 434c, when and as they made
IEs. Their day-to-day receipts and disbursements should not have been
disclosed; they should not be PACs

This as-you-speak disclosure would have been based on the  informational
interest -- independent groups don't corrupt -- even as I personally
believe the informational interst should fall as a matter of Con Law.

Steve
On Apr 8, 2015 4:52 PM, "Steve Klein" <stephen.klein.esq at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm personally on board, but have serious reservations about what
> constitutes a "contribution" (thanks, Wisconsin), "PAC," etc., etc. I don't
> know what constitutes proof, but I believe I've been clear about that in my
> writing.
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu> wrote:
>
>> I believe it is no strawman at all Allen. I doubt that Sean, Ben, Steve,
>> Jim Bopp and many others who have chimed in about disclosure would agree
>> that they support disclosure of large contributions to candidate
>> committees, political parties, and PACs.
>>
>> I'd love to be proven wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/8/15 1:16 PM, Allen Dickerson wrote:
>>
>>> "Opponents of disclosure" is, of course, a straw man. Many of us support
>>> disclosure of large contributions to candidate committees, political
>>> parties, and PACs. The question is whether other organizations, including
>>> groups like CLC and the Pillar of Law Institute, should be subject to that
>>> same standard.
>>>
>>> CLC is entitled to whatever voluntary disclosure policy it wishes. But,
>>> to the extent it advocates the use of state power to impose similar
>>> requirements on other nonprofit organizations, it should clarify the
>>> standard.
>>>
>>> In that vein, it's worth noting that this discussion started with a
>>> vaguely-written local news piece. Larry Noble is not directly quoted as
>>> conflating the Institute with individuals seeking to influence elections.
>>> Presumably he, and the other lawyers at CLC, would recognize the difference
>>> between a public interest law firm and a PAC.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:
>>> law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Hasen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:00 PM
>>> To: law-election at UCI.edu
>>> Subject: [EL] disclosure
>>>
>>> I find it fascinating how many opponents of disclosure seem to so keenly
>>> interested in the Campaign Legal Center's disclosure policies.  It's
>>> especially interesting given arguments from opponents that disclosure
>>> provides no useful information and that privacy and anonymity are paramount.
>>> I get the point of trying to show CLC as hypocrites (and I don't see
>>> that they are in this regard at all).  But the effort is still comical and
>>> ironic.
>>>
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