[EL] Evenwel Argument
Rick Hasen
rhasen at law.uci.edu
Tue Dec 8 13:20:46 PST 2015
I think Marty's reading is correct, and it is echoed by Lyle's analysis:
*http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/12/argument-analysis-the-choice-be-bold-or-practical/
*I'll be writing more on this later.
On 12/8/2015 12:05 PM, Marty Lederman wrote:
> I noticed that, Rick. Just from reading the transcript, however, it
> seemed that AMK might have been persuaded that any version of "you
> must honor both" would be a practical nightmare. When Keller said this:
>
> "If the Court were to try to go down the road
> of requiring States to equalize within 10 percent of a
> deviation, both total and voter population, States would
> inevitably have to disregard many other traditional
> redistricting factors, like compactness, continuity,
> keeping communities together. And that would be the
> opposite of what the Court has said that States have in
> this context, which is the leeway to structure their
> elections as part of the core function of their sovereignty."
>
> Kennedy responded: "That sounds highly probable to me." And he was
> quiet, I think, when the Deputy SG made the same point. (Gershengorn
> also reiterated the argument from the SG brief that equalizing total
> population /protects /voters' equal rights, by ensuring that the
> representative that Voter X votes for must represent, and be
> responsive to and solicitous of, the same number of constituents as
> Voter Y. The other counsel tried to characterize this as a form of
> "access" equality, but I don't think that's right.)
>
> I can't recall a recent case of this importance in which the Justices
> were so subdued. Scalia asked /no /questions.
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Pildes, Rick
> <pildesr at mercury.law.nyu.edu <mailto:pildesr at mercury.law.nyu.edu>> wrote:
>
> I attended the argument this morning. My impression is that
> Justice Kennedy appears drawn to the view that states have to at
> least consider voter equality as one factor to take into account.
> He consistently returned to this question. That would be slicing
> the issues pretty thinly between the two sides. If this view
> prevails, it would impose a process-oriented obligation: this is
> a factor that must be "considered." But this would stop far short
> of requiring that states equalize voter population, rather than
> total population.
>
> If the Court comes out this way, it will look like a victory for
> the appellants. But it would be a win on the most minimal
> grounds. If states have to take voter equality "into account" as
> "a factor," what would that mean on the ground? The key question
> would then become: how much weight do states have to give this
> factor, compared to total population, once they start "taking it
> into account?" The Court is not likely to answer that question
> and it will likely take years of litigation to sort it out. But I
> think the most the Court would ultimately hold is that if states
> can do more to promote voter equality, while not allowing their
> districts to vary in total population by more than 10% and while
> not violating traditional districting principles, then within
> those constraints, states would need to avoid unnecessary
> diminishments of voter equality.
>
> As a practical matter, where this would all end up, then, is with
> very modest changes to redistricting that would not have anything
> like the dramatic consequences that would follow from a
> requirement that states use voter equality as their baseline for
> redistricting.
>
> The more dramatic issue is whether this whole litigation will
> become a catalyst for some states to choose of their own accord to
> start districting based on voter equality, rather than total
> population. I do not think anything in the Court's opinion is
> likely to shut down that option, as a matter of doctrine. The
> Court is not likely to address this option until some state
> actually goes ahead and moves in this direction, if any state does so.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> Sent from my iPad
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> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 8, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Marty Lederman
> <lederman.marty at gmail.com <mailto:lederman.marty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/14-232_c0ne.pdf
>>
>>
>> Tip for Supreme Court advocates (and other lawyers): You're not
>> doing yourself or your clients any favors by referring to the
>> "Democrat Party" and "Democrat members" of a commission or
>> legislature. Notwithstanding what you might hear in the echo
>> chamber, the proper adjective is "Democratic."
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