[EL] is it now conventional wisdom that "liberal" means "anti-free-speech"?

[Joe Birkenstock]

I’ve got it, too. And so I guess we should be glad the black students who sat in at the Woolworth’s lunch counter weren’t trying to get their meal at a Subway. Since it seems that could have presented tough First Amendment concerns about sanctioning “sandwich artists” for refusing to use the unique medium of their sandwich art in support of a politically correct cause.

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From: John Tanner <john.k.tanner at gmail.com<mailto:john.k.tanner at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 3:50 PM
To: "Scarberry, Mark" <Mark.Scarberry at pepperdine.edu<mailto:Mark.Scarberry at pepperdine.edu>>
Cc: "law-election at uci.edu<mailto:law-election at uci.edu>" <law-election at uci.edu<mailto:law-election at uci.edu>>
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Got it
On Jul 1, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Scarberry, Mark <Mark.Scarberry at pepperdine.edu<mailto:Mark.Scarberry at pepperdine.edu>> wrote:

Elane Photography, New Mexico S. Ct., cert denied. See http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/elane-photography-llc-v-willock/,  and amicus brief in support of petitioner by Cato Institute, Eugene Volokh, Dale Carpenter, and Ilya (as counsel of record), http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/ElaneAmicusCato.pdf.

Mark

Mark S. Scarberry
Professor of Law
Pepperdine Univ. School of Law



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I missed the one about fining photographers

On Jul 1, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Ilya Shapiro <IShapiro at cato.org<mailto:IShapiro at cato.org>> wrote:

Is that a serious question when the Left pushes restrictions on political speech, wants to criminalize hate speech, pushes educational theories regarding trigger warnings and micro-aggression, forces workers to subsidize political activity against their interests, and fines photographers for not using their art to support politically correct causes?

Government has obviously advanced under Obama, so I’m not sure why you’re complaining. Just don’t mistake progressivism for (liberty-based) liberalism.

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I am dismayed that the NY Times today, and analyses by others of a few days ago, seem to take it as conventional wisdom now that "conservatives" are pro-free-speech and "liberals" are anti-free-speech.  The NY Times today has a front page story about the "liberals" winning more cases in the last term of the court than they have in a long time.  The sidebar includes the Texas license plates case as a "liberal" victory.  The sidebar doesn't mention Reed v Town of Gilbert, Arizona, but presumably the authors classified that decision as a "conservative" victory.



"Liberal" and "liberty" have the same root.  Would one now say that Sullivan v New York Times was a "conservative" victory?



I would say that Justice Thomas wrote a liberal decision in Reed v Town of Gilbert.  He struck down a government restriction on speech.  Is that no longer "liberal"?

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