[EL] What were Stanford and Dartmouth supposed to do?
Thomas J. Cares
Tom at TomCares.com
Wed May 13 02:56:35 PDT 2015
It's funny you mention that, because I found that quote (inserted
below) pretty deranged and it made me contemplate submitting a piece to the
Onion "Montana fines clouds for affecting election turnouts with
inconsiderate rain"
"The most appalling aspect for many voters, the intent to manipulate vote
totals that could potentially change the outcome of an election, was absent
as a consideration in the process"
In all seriousness, the effects of voters having more information, are
legitimate effects.
-Tom
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015, David Holtzman, Esq. <david at holtzmanlaw.com>
wrote:
> Not treat Montanans like lab rats?
>
> The prosecution may be based on the assumption that changing overall
> turnout percentage changes results. I think data suggest otherwise. But
> a targeted mailing to a subset of voters raises questions about to whom and
> why.
>
> I can't believe there was no human subjects review by an institutional
> review board!
>
> - dah
>
>
>
>
> Sent from a mobile device. Forgive me.
>
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> From: "Thomas J. Cares" <Tom at TomCares.com>
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> Sent: Wed, 13 May 2015 12:47 AM
> Subject: [EL] What were Stanford and Dartmouth supposed to do?
>
> What could they have done, or how could they have reported the
> expenditure? It doesn't sound like they aid any candidate was "*too*
> conservative" or "*too* moderate" (sic) or "*too* liberal"
>
> If there's no advocacy for or against a candidate, how can you report
> it/what would you report?
>
> The only thing perhaps to apologize for was using the State seal,
> depending how it was done. It does seem very strange that, between both of
> them, ~$100k must have been spent on the apology letters, when it seems
> dubious they have anything to apologize for. It sounds like meritorious
> social science research. They should be proud, not sorry.
>
> (Come to think of it, perhaps there is a mandatory option to report
> neutral spending as neutral. I think I recall this in California
> disclosures. Still there seem to be issues here with the line between media
> and campaign advocacy. If a newspaper delivered a paper to 100k voters with
> a piece measuring how conservative, or liberal, judicial candidates are,
> they wouldn't have to report it or apologize, but if universities do
> it...?)
>
>
> Thomas Cares
>
> “Montana: Stanford, Dartmouth mailers broke campaign laws”
>> <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=72395>
>> Posted on May 12, 2015 11:21 am <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=72395> by Rick
>> Hasen <http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
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