[EL] Seattle is passing Measure I-122: $100 in vouchers to every voter, lower contribution limits, etc.

David Keating dkeating at campaignfreedom.org
Wed Nov 4 20:39:31 PST 2015


Tell us, is bundling of the vouchers prohibited?  If I lived in Seattle, could I go to my neighbors and ask them to give me their vouchers for a candidate and turn them in to the candidate?  If that is okay, it sounds like a subsidy to groups that are good at canvassing.  And no doubt we will see a lot more canvassing if that is the case.

What if someone gives cash for vouchers and gives them to candidates he likes, then what happens?

David
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From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Ryan
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Subject: Re: [EL] Seattle is passing Measure I-122: $100 in vouchers to every voter, lower contribution limits, etc.

Your loophole-finding skills are impressive, Larry!  That’s a real gift.  Given how quickly you found your loophole, I’m surprised you didn’t find the answers to your questions as well. The measure makes clear in section 2.04.620(c) that the vouchers can only be assigned to candidates for the offices of mayor, city attorney or city council.  The measure makes clear in section 2.04.620(d) that the vouchers can only be assigned/transferred to candidates, not ballot measures. Both of these points are reiterated in section 2.04.630(a). The measure makes clear in sections 2.04.620(d)-(e) that each of the four $25 vouchers can be assigned to any eligible candidate and that “a person may assign any number of his or her Democracy Vouchers to the same candidate in a given year.”

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From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu<mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Levine
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Subject: Re: [EL] Seattle is passing Measure I-122: $100 in vouchers to every voter, lower contribution limits, etc.

It took me less than 30 seconds to figure out the loophole in this. I’ve said for decades: “Show me a limit and I’ll show you a loophole.” On a separate subject: are these vouchers applicable to any election in the city? Just city offices? Ballot measures? Can they be contributed to an independent expenditure campaign? Can they be divided among a number of candidates for different offices?
I guess the reform industry has to keep coming up with new visions of corruption and new solutions to justify the fundraising operations that pay their salaries.
Larry

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Subject: Re: [EL] Seattle is passing Measure I-122: $100 in vouchers to every voter, lower contribution limits, etc.

Yes these measures are subject to challenge. Jim



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Subject: Re: [EL] Seattle is passing Measure I-122: $100 in vouchers to every voter, lower contribution limits, etc.
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On Nov 3, 2015, at 22:31, Dan Meek <dan at meek.net<mailto:dan at meek.net>> wrote:
Seattle voters by 60-40% are passing Measure I-122.  It requires the City to send $100 in political vouchers to every voter in January of every even-numbered year, to be paid from an increase in property taxes (about $30 million over 10 years).  It lowers the contribution limit to candidates for City office from $700 to $500.  .  It bans candidates from accepting or soliciting contributions from anyone having at least $250,000 in contracts with the City in the last two years or who has paid at least $5,000 to lobby the City.

Dan Meek

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