[EL] A 16 year old voted?
Josh Douglas
joshuadouglas at uky.edu
Thu Nov 12 18:04:02 PST 2015
Prior to the discussion on this list serv, I had began a new project on the
"local right to vote," looking at various franchise-enhancing measures that
have passed at the municipal level. This follows on my work on the U.S.
constitutional right to vote
<http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1079895> and state
constitutional right to vote
<http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2234762>. My research
so far is preliminary, and it will look at 16- and 17-year old voting,
non-citizen voting, and the like. I have not found any legal scholarship
on the topic, but there have been various news stories about the two
Maryland towns that have lowered the voting age, as well as a few cities
(including San Francisco) debating the issue. Here are some relevant links:
Maryland towns:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/us/politics/students-in-maryland-test-civic-participation-and-win-right-to-vote.html?_r=0
Proposal in San Francisco:
http://archives.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/youths-seek-to-lower-voting-age-to-16-in-sf/Content?oid=2916012
But won’t be on ballot until at least 2016:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Plan-to-allow-16-year-olds-to-vote-won-t-be-on-6314581.php
DC proposal to allow 16-year-olds to vote in presidential elections:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/16-year-olds-in-dc-could-vote-for-president-in-2016-under-proposal/2015/11/03/3175fede-825d-11e5-8ba6-cec48b74b2a7_story.html
There is also some scholarship among family scholars about allowing
"children" to vote, but no systematic analysis on voting and elections, as
far as I can tell. (I don't know if there are any political science
studies on the topic.)
Give me a few months and I'll have something more advanced for you!
Josh
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, David Adamany <adamany at temple.edu> wrote:
> I was not aware until today's postings of serious discussion to lower the
> voting age to 16. Can anyone point me to a reliable summary of the
> activities and arguments surrounding this issue?
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> My initial reaction is to wonder about the political atmosphere for such a
> change. When Congress voted to submit the 26th Amendment to the states we
> have a very large number of veterans who had gone to war when there was a
> draft. (Some veterans volunteered of course, but most, I believe, were
> draftees.) Those would have been veterans of World War I, World War II,
> the Korean War, and the war in Viet Nam. And my rough estimate of their
> number (subject to correction by more knowledgeable readers) was between 21
> and 24 million. A great many would have been under 21 years of age at the
> time they were drafted or volunteered (but all would have been over 18).
> Hence, the argument: old enough to fight, old enough to vote.
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> What might be the constituency for a 16-year old vote that would have the
> natural appeal to Congress and the public?
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> And has anyone given thought to just how many people would be added to the
> electorate and how many to the actual vote by such a change. My initial
> reaction was that parents who vote regularly would be most likely to
> facilitate the registration of their 16 and 17 year old children. On
> second thought, it occurred to me that voter registration among that age
> cohort might be much larger than at 18 years old because registration would
> be very likely to occur in high schools.
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> A final thought: If registration were quite high, for the reason above,
> would voting also be considerably higher than among 18 to 22 year
> olds? The latter group are often on the move residentially and hence do
> not register to vote. The younger cohort, by contrast, are more likely to
> be residentially stable and hence not to be disqualified from voting by
> various registration requirements. Moreover, to the extent that school
> buildings are still the site of polling places in many communities, 16 and
> 17 year olds might have a quite high turnout rate as compared to those
> slightly older. If these many surmises are correct, there would be
> increased potential for changed election results.
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> I am utterly devoid of evidence on these matters, but the thought of a 16
> old vote rule certainly provokes my speculative tendencies.
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> Can anyone suggest some serious study of any of those issues: the
> seriousness of the prospects for such a change, the effect on voter
> registration and turnout, and the potential impact on election outcomes?
> I'm sure that members of state legislatures and Congress will be alert to
> such implications and will, at the same time, not be faced with the "old
> enough to fight, old enough to vote" pressures that surrounded the 26th
> Amendment.
>
>
> David Adamany
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> and Political Science, and
> Chancellor
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>
> David Adamany
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> and Political Science, and
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