[EL] who can be candidates for presidential elector

Fri Jan 8 11:45:10 PST 2016

The bottom paragraph below lists the federal requirements to be a candidate for presidential elector.  But the Constitution apparently allows states to set more qualifications.  For instance no one can be a candidate in the District of Columbia who has not been a resident of DC for three years.  Candidates for presidential elector in New Jersey must be at least age 25.  A few states require candidates for presidential elector to be residents of a particular US House district. Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147

      From: "Greenberg, Kevin" <Kevin.Greenberg at flastergreenberg.com>
 To: "'jon.roland at constitution.org'" <jon.roland at constitution.org>; "'law-election at department-lists.uci.edu'" <law-election at department-lists.uci.edu> 
 Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [EL] Who is a "Natural Born Citizen

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(215) 279-9912

    From: law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu]On Behalf Of Jon Roland
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:58 PM
To: law-election at department-lists.uci.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] Who is a "Natural Born Citizen    The term "natural born subject", and "subject" is synonymous with citizen, was defined in the 1608Calvin's Case, authored by Edward Coke. That case should be read closely. We have a link to it athttp://constitution.org/abus/pres_elig.htm . The acts that make children of U.S. citizens U.S. citizens at birth, or persons born on the soil of Puerto Rico or other islands, are all naturalization statutes, which cannot redefine a term used in the Constitution. One can be a citizen at birth without being "natural born"m and "natural born" without being a citizen. Two entirely different principles of law.

There are only two points at which judicial intervention might be made: when the secretary of state counts the electoral votes, and when Congress receives them. There might not be particular harm, but that rule is not observed for challenges to election districts, and could be pursued as a declaratory judgment.

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