[EL] Unusual Ad in Utah's Major Paper

Mon Nov 7 06:46:28 PST 2016

My comment was about Rick Hasen's post in his daily feed from his blog. See
Unusual Ad in Utah’s Major Paper <http://electionlawblog.org/?p=88864>
The ad includes "We can indeed bend the ark of history!"

Sorry to have been obscure. 

Edward Still
Edward Still Law Firm LLC
429 Green Springs Hwy, STE 161-304
Birmingham AL 35209
205-320-2882
still at votelaw.com
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On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:49 AM, David A. Holtzman <David at holtzmanlaw.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Barnaby.
> That makes sense.
> I just wish initiative proponents could get legislative leaders' standing
> in federal courts.
> Hollingsworth v. Perry put the kibosh on that.
>   - dah
>
> On 11/6/2016 10:07 PM, BZall at aol.com wrote:
>
> Yes it does. The IRS considers ballot initiatives to be lobbying, which
> even a c3/church can engage in to some degree (the degree depending on
> whether it chooses the mechanical/501(h) test or the older "substantial
> part" test). Jerry Walsh-Skelly, then at Treasury when the 501(h) regs were
> being drafted, and I agreed that in a ballot initiative the voters are
> "legislators," so the lobbying test (to be precise, the "direct lobbying
> test for communications directly to legislators) was more appropriate. See
> Treas. Regs. 56.4911-2(b)(1)(iii). And the deductibility question is more
> detailed and complex, and probably beyond the boundaries of this list.
>
> Barnaby Zall
> Law Office of Barnaby Zall
> 685 Spring St. #314
> Friday Harbor WA 98250
> 360-378-6600
> bzall at aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/6/2016 9:31:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> David at HoltzmanLaw.com writes:
>
>
>
> So.  In California, "Bend the Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice" may
> have gotten the spelling of Ark wrong, but offers a guide to the statewide
> ballot propositions:
> http://www.bendthearc.us/sites/default/files/bend-the-
> arc-2016-voter-guide.pdf
>
> which reminds me:
> Bend the Arc has a PAC and a 501(c)(4) piece,
>
> but I don't know of any temple/synagogue that has those.
> I saw this picture on Facebook recently
> (since I doubt it will display to the group, I'll tell you that
> it shows [L.A. Mayor] Eric Garcetti and temple members at a Metro station
> holding signs that
> read in relevant part, "Leo Baeck Temple ... Measure M ... VOTE YES"):
>
> I wondered if this is a no-no of any sort for a temple.  (It says on its
> website
> "LBT is a non-profit organization and your gift is tax deductible to the
> extent permitted by law.")
> I also wondered if the federal government treats state ballot measures
> differently than state candidate elections for tax law purposes.
> Forgive me if I've asked about that before.
>   - dah
>
>
>
> On 11/6/2016 4:55 PM, Edward Still wrote:
>
> May the "ark" of history be ever in your favor.
>
>
> Edward Still
> Edward Still Law Firm LLC
> 429 Green Springs Hwy, STE 161-304
> Birmingham AL 35209
> 205-320-2882
> still at votelaw.com
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> Twitter: @edwardstill
>
>
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