[EL] Curious if a single person on this list would back up President-Elect Trump on 2 assertions today

Sun Nov 27 16:38:35 PST 2016

Folks,

President-elect Donald Trump has a quick thumb on Twitter, it seems. See report
in New York Times,
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/27/us/politics/trump-adviser-steps-up-searing-attack-on-romney.html>
and see three tweets in a row at the bottom of this email, which put
together result in this text:

"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the
popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. It
would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than
the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4 states
instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily
and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!"

So this list has participants with a full range of political opinions. But
I'm curious to know if a single person on this list would attempt to back
two claims in this statement:

1. Trump in fact won the popular vote this year "if you deduct the millions
of people who voted illegally."
2. With a national popular vote, he would have campaigned in only 3 or 4
states instead of the whopping 15 states that he visited out of the
nation's 51 (counting DC).

When making your  argument, keep in mind the latest data in from Dave
Wasserman as he tracks the national popular vote here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/edit#gid=19

With votes still being counted and finalized, Clinton's lead is up to more
than 2.2 million (48.2% to 46.5%). It is expected to rise to more than
 2.5% and about two percentage points. So let us know where that many
illegal votes were cast this year -- seems important to have that
information!

Also, keep in mind the math of our nation's states when defending Trump's
prospective campaign tactics with a popular vote. Mike McDonald's
spreadsheet on turnout is  here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VAcF0eJ06y_8T4o2gvIL4YcyQy8pxb1zYkgXF76Uu1s/edit#gid=2030096602

Assuming comparable turnout of eligible voters across state, a candidate
could win 100% of the vote in the 4 largest states (California, Texas,
Florida and New York) and have only 31% of all votes in the nation.  In,
fact, you could win every cast in the 9 largest states and still be well
under 50% of votes in the entire country - -and those states include a mix
of strongly Democratic and Republican states, showing how still it is to
suggest getting much more than half of the vote in those states in a
nationally close election.

So suggesting that campaigning in 15 states was due to our current
Electoral College rules seems, well, a stretch. You can see how often he
campaigned in those states, by the sway, at our tracker

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14Lxw0vc4YBUwQ8cZouyewZvOGg6PyzS2mArWNe3iJcY/edit#gid=0

Post-convention, Trump did well over half of his campaign evens in the four
largest swing states - 26 campaign events in Florida, 16 in North Carolina,
 13 in Ohio and 14 on Pennsylvania. Of our 13 states (counting DC) with 3
or 4 electoral votes, he campaigned in only two -- 8 events in New
Hampshire, and 3 in Maine

Thanks,
Rob Richie

   1. *Donald J. Trump* ‏@realDonaldTrump
   <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump> 3h3 hours ago
   <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802975667197386752>

   states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even
   more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!
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   *Donald J. Trump* ‏@realDonaldTrump
   <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump> 4h4 hours ago
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   It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote
   than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4--
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   *Donald J. Trump* ‏@realDonaldTrump
   <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump> 4h4 hours ago
   <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802972944532209664>

   In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the
   popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

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