[EL] Cats Scratch Their Rescuer

Justin Levitt levittj at lls.edu
Tue Jul 11 11:52:58 PDT 2017


Oh, no, I don't believe that the questions are passe.  And my skepticism 
about complete federal control of voter administration is both 
theoretical and pragmatic.

I offered my response simply as one person who has some serious concerns 
about (and wants to know more about real risks posed by) "Russia, 
Russia, Russia" -- and there are a bunch of discrete concerns 
unfortunately conflated, involving at least pursuit of information or 
influence, pursuit of electronic breaches of state systems, and perhaps 
other strands still -- without having any sort of personal "endgame" 
leading to one federal agency conducting all of our elections.  If 
that's the master plan, nobody's filled me in.

Also, as I understand it, the designation of state election systems as 
"critical infrastructure 
<https://www.dhs.gov/critical-infrastructure-sectors>" does not mean 
that DHS runs elections (hence the black helicopters) any more than the 
designation of "commercial facilities 
<https://www.dhs.gov/commercial-facilities-sector>" as critical 
infrastructure means that DHS runs your local mall.  What it does mean 
<https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/01/06/statement-secretary-johnson-designation-election-infrastructure-critical> 
is that DHS, which likely has some capacity for detecting cyberattacks 
that your local county or municipal official may not, can offer 
detection and inoculation assistance to officials _who want it_, and 
facilitates what might otherwise be classified or sensitive 
federal-state discussions.

More broadly: I hope that the reaction to one deeply flawed federal 
advisory body isn't a proxy for denigration of any and all federal 
services (or even any and all federal advisory bodies), any more than 
the reaction to one [X] becomes a proxy for denigration of any and all 
[X].  And I suspect _everybody_ has their favorite example to fill in in 
place of the X.

On 7/11/2017 11:34 AM, Steve Hoersting wrote:
> Justin:
>
> As to the the second part of your first paragraph: good for you! 
> Seriously.
>
> As to your numeric series of premises and conclusions, your 4) is 
> inapposite.
>
> My point is, and remains, that the Constitution properly (as a matter 
> of policy and popular sovereignty, to say nothing of federalism) 
> leaves voter administration widely dispersed under the authority of 
> the several states (subject to input from Congress).
>
> It should remain with the several states, formally and functionally. 
> That is my point.
>
> If your point is opposite -- that we've nothing to concern us -- I 
> would ask you: Do you think Bernie got a fair shake at the DNC?
>
> If not, have you any concern that "shakes" of that kind could become 
> far less "fair", or perhaps less well known to the voting public, were 
> vote tabulation filtered, functionally speaking, through a single 
> federal clearing house?
>
> Do you suppose the Framers would have changed their approach to the 
> federal Constitution had the broad sheets of any country treated them 
> to repeated stories of "British meddling" in our elections?
>
> Do you suppose such questions -- whatever their age or origins -- are 
> passe? Or, to bring the question quite up-to-date, what is the basis 
> for /your/ "skeptic[ism] of 'nationalization of voter administration 
> in a single federal agency'"? For I assume you have one... and that 
> your objection isn't incidental.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Justin Levitt <levittj at lls.edu 
> <mailto:levittj at lls.edu>> wrote:
>
>     I have been quite outspoken about seeing value in some federal
>     role in the elections process (perhaps, as a former federal
>     official, that's natural), and quite skeptical of "nationalization
>     of voter administration in a single federal agency."
>
>     And I don't see why 1) wanting to understand the ways in which
>     foreign governments sought to affect the election process (FWIW, I
>     think Bluman v. FEC was wrongly decided, but it's actually the
>     law), 2) the ways in which Americans may or may not have
>     facilitated that effort, and 3) ways to bolster cybersecurity that
>     don't unduly impact legitimate American access to the franchise
>     necessarily lead to 4) black helicopters.
>
>     -- 
>     Justin Levitt
>     Professor of Law
>     Associate Dean for Research
>     Loyola Law School | Los Angeles
>     919 Albany St.
>     Los Angeles, CA  90015
>     213-736-7417 <tel:%28213%29%20736-7417>
>     ssrn.com/author=698321 <http://ssrn.com/author=698321>
>     @_justinlevitt_
>
>     On 7/11/2017 10:26 AM, Steve Hoersting wrote:
>>     I see that:
>>
>>     /The nation’s Secretaries of State sent a clear message to the
>>     White House. //Members of the National Association of Secretaries
>>     of State meeting in Indianapolis unanimously passed a bipartisan
>>     resolution underscoring the Constitutional rights of states to
>>     administer local, state and federal elections./
>>
>>     //
>>
>>     If "underscoring [and preserving] the Constitutional [power] of
>>     states to administer local, state and federal elections" is the
>>     issue, the several Secretaries of State have no greater friend
>>     than Donald J. Trump.
>>
>>     For it is evident that nearly half the endgame of "Russia,
>>     Russia, Russia" is to justify the (formal or functional)
>>     nationalization of voter administration in a single federal
>>     agency, be it DHS or elsewhere. What were the buzzwords we heard
>>     repeatedly last Autumn? "...critical [something] architecture"?
>>
>>     *
>>
>>     Sanders supporters should be no less concerned. (Whether they are
>>     or not, I cannot say).
>>
>>     Thank you,
>>
>>     Steve
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