[EL] Information as a thing of value
JBoppjr at aol.com
JBoppjr at aol.com
Fri Jul 14 06:29:49 PDT 2017
But context does matter. There is no suggestion in this case that the
court analyzed the question under the First Amendment. Obviously, the
information Trump, Jr. hoped to receive, but did not, was directly related to a
political campaign and thus protected by the First Amendment. Thus, this case
is irrelevant.
I really think that the proponents of this theory - that information is a
thing of value for purposes of being a "contribution" under the federal
campaign law - should pause and consider the ramifications of this position,
beyond their hope that it will finally "get Trump." There are significant
ramification to viewing a campaign as having received a contribution if it
receives information.
Of course there are prohibitions, corporations and labor unions may not
make contributions to federal candidates, for instance. If the information
is viewed as coming from that source, it is prohibited and a crime.
But even if not prohibited, if Joe Blow tells a campaign some information
that someone would view as having value, say his opponent - say, "hey Jill
Smith likes you and you ought to contact her for a contribution" - it would
be subject to contribution limits and reporting. Failure to do that would
also be a crime. (And how much is this worth, another great issue for the
opponent to dispute.)
Thus, a candidate receiving a contribution always has some legal
ramifications.
Under these circumstances, I just dont see how any campaign would ever be
willing to discuss anything about the campaign with anyone. This would have
a devastating effect of the freedom of association protected by the First
Amendment. Jim Bopp
In a message dated 7/14/2017 12:12:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rhasen at law.uci.edu writes:
_9th Circuit 1980 Case: “Information,” “State Secrets,” “Information
Obtained for Political Advantage” All “Things of Value”_
(http://electionlawblog.org/?p=93830)
Posted on _July 13, 2017 12:44 pm_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=93830)
by _Rick Hasen_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?author=3)
_This case_
(http://www.leagle.com/decision/19801225618F2d607_11114/UNITED%20STATES%20v.%20SHEKER) presents a very different context than _Donald
Trump, Jr._
(http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/07/donald_trump_jr_s_free_speech_defense_is_as_bogus_as_it_sounds.html) ,
but the discussion is instructive:
II. Sufficiency of the Indictment
The indictment adequately charged Sheker with impersonating a federal
officer to obtain a thing of value, within the meaning of 18 U.S.C. § 912._2_
(http://www.leagle.com/decision/19801225618F2d607_11114/UNITED%20STATES%20v.%2
0SHEKER#fid3) See U. S. v. Mitman, _459 F.2d 451_
(http://www.leagle.com/cite/459%20F.2d%20451) (9th Cir.), cert. den. 409 U.S. 863, 93 S.Ct. 154,
34 L.Ed.2d 111 (1972). We do not embrace the government’s sweeping position
that 18 U.S.C. 912 extends to anything that has value to the defendant.
Such a broad reading of “value” negates any limitation the word could imply.
By the same token, we cannot accept Sheker’s suggestion that 18 U.S.C. 912
covers only things having commercial value.Information can be a thing of
value. Whaley v. U. S., _324 F.2d 356_
(http://www.leagle.com/cite/324%20F.2d%20356) (9th Cir. 1963). In normal English usage commercial worth is not
the exclusive measure of value. For instance, state secrets might trade
hands without cash consideration. Information obtained for political advantage
might have value apart from its worth in dollars. In each case the
information sought would have value to others,in addition to the seeker. Such is
the case here. Stokes would see value in keeping his whereabouts unknown to
Sheker. The criminal justice system, concerned with the safety of
witnesses, has a similar interest. Because the information sought had value in these
broader senses, we hold the indictment sufficient.
In view of this conclusion, we also hold that the challenged language in
the indictment (“concerning the location of a witness against him”) was not
prejudicial surplusage. The quoted words were properly included to explain
why the information sought was valuable. See generally, U. S. v. Root,
_366 F.2d 377_ (http://www.leagle.com/cite/366%20F.2d%20377) , 381 (9th Cir.),
cert. den. 386 U.S. 912, 87 S.Ct. 861, 17 L.Ed.2d 784 (1966).
The language of the statute is not sufficiently ambiguous to call into
play the rule of lenity. As the Supreme Court said in Bell v. U. S., _349 U.S.
81_ (http://www.leagle.com/cite/349%20U.S.%2081) , 83, 75 S.Ct. 620, 622,
99 L.Ed. 905 (1955):
[L]anguage used in criminal statutes should not be read with the saving
grace of common sense with which other enactments, not cast in technical
language, are to be read.
We find the statute unambiguous.
(https://www.addtoany.com/share#url=http://electionlawblog.org/?p=93830&title=9th%20Circuit%201980%20Case:%20“Information,”%20“State%20Secrets,”%20“
Information%20Obtained%20for%20Political%20Advantage”%20All%20“Th)
Posted in _Uncategorized_ (http://electionlawblog.org/?cat=1)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://webshare.law.ucla.edu/Listservs/law-election/attachments/20170714/4687e4aa/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/unknown
Size: 2021 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://webshare.law.ucla.edu/Listservs/law-election/attachments/20170714/4687e4aa/attachment.bin>
View list directory