[EL] J. Gorsuch Will Be Awful on #SCOTUS for Progressives. Democrats Should Not Filibuster Him

Margaret Groarke margaret.groarke at manhattan.edu
Fri Mar 24 09:15:03 PDT 2017


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This was said forcefully tonight and w/o a trace of irony by Sen
@LindseyGraham <https://twitter.com/LindseyGraham> tonight on CNN. As
though Merrick Garland never happened.

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Margaret Groarke <
margaret.groarke at manhattan.edu> wrote:

> I don't know why some of you feel it necessary to characterize the
> treatment of the nomination of Merrick Garland as normal behavior, but I
> recognize that a lot of people are doing it. Today, there was this tweet:
>
> Retweeted Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF):
>
> "I will not allow the Dems to deny to Trump what every other Pres has been
> allowed to do - nominate qualified candidates to SCOTUS."
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Smith, Brad <BSmith at law.capital.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> The advice and consent of the senate was declining to confirm Garland.
>> The extensive airing of debate on the issue just goes to the idea that
>> somehow Garland didn't have a hearing. Nothing in the constitution provides
>> any guidance or limitations as to how the Senate may exercise its power to
>> refuse to consent. One way it might do that--and in fact has, many
>> times--is not to have a hearing or to take any action on a nomination.
>>
>> *Bradley A. Smith*
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>> *From:* Bensman, Lina [lbensman at cgsh.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:25 PM
>> *To:* Smith, Brad; David A. Holtzman
>> *Cc:* Election Law Listserv
>> *Subject:* RE: [EL] J. Gorsuch Will Be Awful on #SCOTUS for
>> Progressives. Democrats Should Not Filibuster Him
>>
>> If the goalposts move any farther, we won’t be able to see them anymore.
>> Defining the advice and consent of the Senate as a process that includes
>> the publication of op-eds is a new one on me.
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>> *From:* law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu [mailto:
>> law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] *On Behalf Of *Smith, Brad
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:11 PM
>> *To:* David A. Holtzman <David at HoltzmanLaw.com>
>> *Cc:* Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [EL] J. Gorsuch Will Be Awful on #SCOTUS for
>> Progressives. Democrats Should Not Filibuster Him
>>
>>
>>
>> republicans didn't need to filibuster Garland--a majority of the senate
>> opposed his nomination. I am not sure what you mean when you say he was not
>> "considered"--his nomination was discussed at great length, was it not, and
>> indeed became a major campaign issue. Hundreds of editorials were written,
>> and numerous biographies and backgrounders. The nomination was debated at
>> great length. And every Republican senator-- a majority of the whole
>> Senate--agreed they would not confirm him before the election. He was not
>> "considered" in the particular way you wanted, but was there any reason to
>> do so given the majority opposition?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:52 PM, David A. Holtzman <David at HoltzmanLaw.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn’t it be fair to filibuster Gorsuch for 10 months, to retaliate for
>> Congress’ refusal to consider President Obama’s nominee during 10 months of
>> Obama's presidency?
>>
>> On 3/22/2017 9:36 PM, Rick Hasen wrote:
>>
>> *J. Gorsuch Will Be Awful on #SCOTUS for Progressives. Democrats Should
>> Not Filibuster Him
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__linkprotect.cudasvc.com_url-3Fa-3Dhttp-3A__electionlawblog.org_-253fp-253d91762-26c-3DE-2C1-2C9c5CuxG-5Fez7XpRjQvs-5Fk8Ja9GEzNa9-5FCHGtzjJNmZHzRyj0FN8qvKJtwFiINboaGOb2sRsIh-2D9ZNmaJIRIeWEij2MjnQ4FkiA4bxuJUv6ACYWy5EwQ-2C-2C-26typo-3D1%26d%3dDwMF-g%26c%3d6ldJ3EG4a4nVimLYnfpfYA%26r%3dirZoJQRAEpWgqIfKu3nhoeuqWPVCzGADCeta_jGFeYk%26m%3dTnQpiV0eHZjt1-TUVUIifoqj9te72_XHLwWXAwEWYbA%26s%3dEcnZYEft0chk43zMG4SJ1NUYHGlmucOsf00zIjSk4kk%26e%3d&c=E,1,cVe1FbJyetV3MBFcXlgSrwaIyOTcbfBFgCeDgkL_LC2ObAjZLUE1KIv0jnVCK1dfUpWSoqXWVyBh1R617P7OXW9i6hZXId2tAs8Os_MemKUECmut&typo=1>*
>>
>> Posted on March 22, 2017 9:26 pm
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__linkprotect.cudasvc.com_url-3Fa-3Dhttp-3A__electionlawblog.org_-253fp-253d91762-26c-3DE-2C1-2CL49X-5FeYvEtB7Qul-5FNZOqL-2DTIFpHNRJJS04SWucBmvYx0RJ-2DboCLs1r0bYKaPbbDNZMg0EBmoBrZ0GohMc8H-2DG3EyGwInK6zVCzhaHhk-2C-26typo-3D1%26d%3dDwMF-g%26c%3d6ldJ3EG4a4nVimLYnfpfYA%26r%3dirZoJQRAEpWgqIfKu3nhoeuqWPVCzGADCeta_jGFeYk%26m%3dTnQpiV0eHZjt1-TUVUIifoqj9te72_XHLwWXAwEWYbA%26s%3dWxyKoiLKs1K6LRI-Y_7SAmVPiFj1EIGO5bpMh_BUmok%26e%3d&c=E,1,B1p3LUsbuMofGf2PdY4dKGg0a7VMxIASF3SwJdPrTzWrzGX21McGb1imB9wxKi2fverb-owIuNL4puzriDNkAT1TKz831tebwMlioHQ,&typo=1>
>>  by *Rick Hasen*
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__linkprotect.cudasvc.com_url-3Fa-3Dhttp-3A__electionlawblog.org_-253fauthor-253d3-26c-3DE-2C1-2Cgzm7KpFeeAEYIPwDXTpO79FvcivjWI4OT4ZA9hdA1RFWj4oCwBhbzukKiABPRXMZXBvUmX3aEWXyya2rN30N0HrqoxfmOs9UT-5F0M0jtqSLxdink-2C-26typo-3D1%26d%3dDwMF-g%26c%3d6ldJ3EG4a4nVimLYnfpfYA%26r%3dirZoJQRAEpWgqIfKu3nhoeuqWPVCzGADCeta_jGFeYk%26m%3dTnQpiV0eHZjt1-TUVUIifoqj9te72_XHLwWXAwEWYbA%26s%3dr84rtq0kRgmRyNAELueKYdn-JZgZJyw9Hr96oq46SuY%26e%3d&c=E,1,2umRTJ663Of0iTkhvT3N_BQ5dzfV4bv0u24JPJQgfeGVku8LfG4O2WLW1_IBrK0eO6LdG6G8Or9aS_5JOz5bMi0CDqbDC0tT2vnm3_fqhTQ,&typo=1>
>>
>> I have no doubt that a Justice Gorsuch will be awful for progressives on
>> the issues that they care the most about: abortion, affirmative action,
>> campaign finance, voting rights, environmental protection, gun rights, and
>> everything else. I’m even more convinced watching the hearings that Judge
>> Gorsuch fancies himself an originalist and textualist in the mold of
>> Justice Scalia. This means he is likely to be more conservative than Chief
>> Justice Roberts, and could be as conservative if not more conservative than
>> Justices Alito and Thomas. (I wrote about where he is likely to stand on
>> campaign finance and voting rights in this CNN piece
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttp-3A__www.cnn.com_2017_03_01_opinions_worry-2Dabout-2Dgorsuch-2Dhasen_%26d%3dDwMF-g%26c%3d6ldJ3EG4a4nVimLYnfpfYA%26r%3dirZoJQRAEpWgqIfKu3nhoeuqWPVCzGADCeta_jGFeYk%26m%3dTnQpiV0eHZjt1-TUVUIifoqj9te72_XHLwWXAwEWYbA%26s%3dwIyYtyxjFfxgs1wqw0O2TqGpDCkJsz_hCM5aFHmhq9I%26e%3d&c=E,1,zqwC4dDBnIBI1IylK3UWRmRDcHuioLb71UDE7D0xCv7HzzKPLee4XR-aHRa5tlSrNYQMVHLtp1xeuXQgKviYz7q81j4lLvvf5aYq4GD_L2UFB3riT94SJ91sUA,,&typo=1>
>>  and this blog post
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__linkprotect.cudasvc.com_url-3Fa-3Dhttp-3A__electionlawblog.org_-253fp-253d91744-26c-3DE-2C1-2Czw5scHWunDsBGr8Oiyx8478PxHZsc7OaNcU0pKx4cSOfrpzcJlCOYpnQaaBRaxIyPJ04Qmi-5FMWmp1SnmJI8el5I9EegOz3qdWNtJwg-2C-2C-26typo-3D1%26d%3dDwMF-g%26c%3d6ldJ3EG4a4nVimLYnfpfYA%26r%3dirZoJQRAEpWgqIfKu3nhoeuqWPVCzGADCeta_jGFeYk%26m%3dTnQpiV0eHZjt1-TUVUIifoqj9te72_XHLwWXAwEWYbA%26s%3dlEMskXUbzR2k6oggUfoJmeonynONeKwRYYHeRtuA4Qs%26e%3d&c=E,1,RKcqTMED_8RjAaWoxNMsxD3pNABlVgMOzAKnlk9c7FZZsbdHdbf_Qibf3RZJY01iIBnf4mqNZds2KfZLvgZHh4vqj7m1kmYTP8GiqvzwuAo,&typo=1>.
>> I also think we need a bit more clarification on his views. based on misstatements
>> at the hearing
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url%3fu%3dhttps-3A__linkprotect.cudasvc.com_url-3Fa-3Dhttp-3A__electionlawblog.org_-253fp-253d91730-26c-3DE-2C1-2CYb6hFflTSmTJpUaUsNig-2Dl8QFJMv-5FbxHBIgtLSCGQpbzFOMqkppLaMeBUkIP-5Ff7IMHiWfPpPc8fzFkfpAUf68gwdm1kmi7lyxIaJeBA-5Fi64-2C-26typo-3D1%26d%3dDwMF-g%26c%3d6ldJ3EG4a4nVimLYnfpfYA%26r%3dirZoJQRAEpWgqIfKu3nhoeuqWPVCzGADCeta_jGFeYk%26m%3dTnQpiV0eHZjt1-TUVUIifoqj9te72_XHLwWXAwEWYbA%26s%3dnsOlgeNj3iXfAHV3LDGQuga-Cevv0vRIEpQ88EKVbno%26e%3d&c=E,1,Gj6rUFYvrxV12MEVj7qyg7Isrw59jMEB6qLuRcdmVGEQcgh7GppTY8_deWWxrZIkdOpyHHQO-PkiS28bXXw0i4vsYn4DnTuTHfkRmxy71qtxt-SX&typo=1>
>> .)
>>
>> So should Democrats try to filibuster him? Right now it takes 60 votes to
>> bring Gorsuch’s nomination to the floor. If Democrats hang together, they
>> could filibuster him. That would likely cause Senator McConnell to trigger
>> the nuclear option for Supreme Court appointees (just like Senator Reid,
>> for the Democrats, went nuclear a few years ago for all appointees aside
>> from the Supreme Court). He may have some reluctant Republicans to do that,
>> but my bet is he’d get it through.
>>
>> So why shouldn’t Democrats do it now, to get attention and to protest the
>> shameful failure of Republicans to consider Judge Merrick Garland for the
>> Supreme Court when nominated by President Obama? I’ve struggled with it but
>> now think it better not to filibuster.
>>
>> Democrats hold a pair of twos.  They don’t have much they can do.
>> Triggering a fight over the filibuster will gain attention, but Democrats
>> can only do it once. The Gorsuch nomination restores the balance of power
>> on the Court to the position it was in before Justice Scalia’s death.
>>
>> Imagine if in a year or so Justices Breyer, Ginsburg, or Kennedy leave
>> the Court. Then things get MUCH worse from the point of view of
>> progressives. Then Roberts becomes the swing voter and there goes
>> affirmative action, abortion rights, etc. If you think things with the
>> Supreme Court are bad for progressive now they can get much, much worse.
>>
>> Better to save the firepower for that fight. It is possible that Senators
>> like Susan Collins would be squeamish about such a nominee, and they might
>> not vote to go nuclear. At that point, people can take to the streets and
>> exert public pressure. At that point, the left will perhaps realize what
>> they lost when they lost the 2016 election and how bad things will be.
>>
>> Another thing. Lots of Trump state Democratic Senators are coming up for
>> reelection in 2018. Democrats need to hold those seats. Democrats and their
>> allies have not done a good enough job painting Judge Gorsuch as a danger
>> to the rights and issues people care about in those states. They would be
>> put to tough votes if they are put in the position to filibuster. They may
>> not do it, and if they do it could make the more vulnerable in 2018.
>>
>> So while I’ve vacillated, I now don’t think Democrats should trigger the
>> filibuster now.
>>
>> The future is uncertain. It won’t buy much now. It might buy more in the
>> future. Maybe in the future Democrats will have better than a pair of twos.
>>
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