[EL] Help Get Calif. Gas Tax Votes Prop. Off the Ballot?
D. A. Holtzman
d at LAvoteFIRE.org
Fri Aug 3 15:44:28 PDT 2018
FWIW, the LATimes published my letter on the subject today:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-gas-tax-prop-6-signs-20180803-story.html
- dah
On 8/3/2018 11:26 AM, D. A. Holtzman wrote:
> Property taxes are set at the local level. Prop. 6 would shackle the
> STATE legislature.
>
> On 8/3/2018 4:02 AM, Tom Cares wrote:
>> I’m curious how you might argue that this is any different from Prop
>> 13, the result of which is that the legislature can’t allow property
>> taxes above a fairly low limit.
>>
>> Something to think about at least.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:46 AM D. A. Holtzman <d at lavotefire.org
>> <mailto:d at lavotefire.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, same-sex "marriage" (the subject of Prop. 8) wasn't in our
>> basic governmental plan.
>> Representative democracy, including a state legislature that can
>> pass laws on any subject, is basic.
>> It would be very far reaching to break that in any way and open
>> the door for three-branch dysfunction by initiative.
>>
>> Lawyers I've heard from so far are focusing on what to do if
>> Prop. 6 passes. But suing before the election would be better
>> than letting an unconstitutional initiative draw anti-tax voters
>> to the polls, which Prop. 6 seems designed to do. - dah
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/2018 7:30 PM, Tom Cares wrote:
>>> This wouldn’t have any legs.
>>>
>>> I recommend reviewing the 2009 CSC opinion that Prop 8 was not a
>>> revision.
>>> http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/S168047.pdf
>>>
>>> For an amendment to be considered an improperly enacted
>>> revision, it must enact “far reaching changes in the nature of
>>> our basic governmental plan.”
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:50 PM D. A. Holtzman <d at lavotefire.org
>>> <mailto:d at lavotefire.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Election Law List People,
>>>
>>> I’ve refined the argument for blocking the Gas Tax Votes
>>> proposition (see below), and really hope some of you can
>>> offer help.Please let me know what you think.Or maybe you
>>> can refer me to someone who might help.
>>>
>>> The measure, Proposition 6, threatens California government,
>>> not just one gas tax.
>>>
>>> Prop. 6 seeks to change the California Constitution to
>>> require automatic votes on *all future* state gas or car
>>> taxes.In addition to significantly hobbling one branch of
>>> state government, that change would set a precedent that
>>> could end up crippling all three branches.So, like the
>>> “Three Californias” Prop. 9 did before the California
>>> Supreme Court took it off the ballot, Prop. 6 truly proposes
>>> a constitutional revision, not an ordinary amendment.For
>>> that reason, and because a constitutional revision may not
>>> be placed on the ballot by initiative, a lawsuit can get
>>> Prop. 6 off the ballot.
>>>
>>> The precedent set by Prop. 6 would be awful and could be
>>> catastrophic.Imagine if the legislature, agencies, and
>>> courts could not act on any of a list of subjects without
>>> waiting for a statewide election and voter approval!
>>> Although it’s true that a state may require local voter
>>> involvement before some types of local government actions
>>> take effect, in the United States a *state* government must
>>> be sovereign and able to act on any subject at any time.
>>>
>>> The California Constitution requires representative
>>> democracy as well as functioning agencies and
>>> courts.Blocking our government from working without waiting
>>> for a statewide election and voter approval might not split
>>> the state into pieces, but it would fundamentally revise the
>>> Constitution’s functional structure. In a way, Prop. 6 is
>>> worse than Prop. 9 was.Having one broken state government
>>> would be worse than having three new ones that work.Prop. 6
>>> could usher in a dysfunctional future!
>>>
>>> I really hope some of you will help get a suit to court as
>>> soon as possible.California Code offers a window until
>>> August 13 to obtain a writ of mandate ordering the
>>> proposition off the ballot. So please contact me ASAP.
>>>
>>> - David A. Holtzman, M.P.H., J.D.
>>> (310) 826 - 7398
>>> dahmph at umich.edu <mailto:dahmph at umich.edu>
>>>
>>>
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