[EL] “Michael Cohen’s Guilty Plea Directly Implicates Donald Trump in a Felony”
brendan fischer
brendan.fischer at gmail.com
Fri Aug 24 06:56:57 PDT 2018
CLC’s Trevor Potter has this piece in the Post as well this morning, which
addresses some of Mr. Smith’s arguments:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/outlook/2018/08/24/trump-says-michael-cohen-didnt-commit-crimes-hes-wrong/
This op-ed from earlier this year also remains relevant:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/04/the-point-of-paying-stormy-daniels-was-to-keep-voters-from-hearing-her-story/
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:22 AM Smith, Brad <BSmith at law.capital.edu> wrote:
> I'm told the link below was broken. Don't know why that would be so, but
> here is link to Reason piece, again.
> https://reason.com/archives/2018/08/23/trumps-campaign-finance-catch-22
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> *Bradley A. Smith*
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> *Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault*
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> * Professor of Law*
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> *From:* Law-election [law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] on
> behalf of Smith, Brad [BSmith at law.capital.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:29 PM
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> *To:* Election Law Listserv
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] “Michael Cohen’s Guilty Plea Directly Implicates
> Donald Trump in a Felony”
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> I also published a piece on the issue at Reason:
> https://reason.com/archives/2018/08/23/trumps-campaign-finance-catch-22.
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> Brad
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> *Bradley A. Smith*
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> *Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault*
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> * Professor of Law*
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> *Capital University Law School*
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> *303 E. Broad St.*
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> *Columbus, OH 43215*
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> *614.236.6317*
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> *From:* Smith, Brad
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:27 PM
> *To:* Election Law Listserv
> *Subject:* RE: [EL] “Michael Cohen’s Guilty Plea Directly Implicates
> Donald Trump in a Felony”
>
> My take was in the Washington Post this morning. For anyone interested,
> the link is
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/those-payments-to-mistresses-were-unseemly-that-doesnt-mean-they-were-illegal/2018/08/22/634acdf4-a63b-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.2fdad3abe60f
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> *Bradley A. Smith*
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> *Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault*
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> * Professor of Law*
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> *Capital University Law School*
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> *303 E. Broad St.*
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> *Columbus, OH 43215*
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> *614.236.6317*
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> *http://law.capital.edu/faculty/bios/bsmith.aspx
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> *From:* Law-election [law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu] on
> behalf of Roberts, Brian E [roberts at utexas.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:55 AM
> *To:* Election Law Listserv
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] “Michael Cohen’s Guilty Plea Directly Implicates
> Donald Trump in a Felony”
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> Isn’t this discussion moot? No one, least of all Donald Trump, thought he
> would actually win the election, so clearly these payments were not meant
> to sway the election outcome. :- )
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> In fact, then, it would become a campaign finance legal issue if campaign
> funds actually had been used to address concerns solely of personal
> reputation.
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> Brian Roberts
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> University of Texas
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> *On
> Behalf Of *Fredric Woocher
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2018 8:31 PM
> *To:* Mark Scarberry <mark.scarberry at pepperdine.edu>; Election Law
> Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] “Michael Cohen’s Guilty Plea Directly Implicates
> Donald Trump in a Felony”
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> Mark,
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> Why are you struggling to put such a benign face on this, with all of your
> hypotheticals about whether this would be legal if Trump “promptly
> reimbursed” the Organization or the campaign for these expenditures? He
> didn’t. Trump doesn’t pay for anything out of his own pocket, even when he
> is legally obligated to do so, much less when he is trying to cover it up.
> The Information makes clear that the Trump Organization made the
> reimbursements to Cohen through phony “retainer” payments over the course
> of two years, well after the expenses were incurred by Cohen.
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> Fredric D. Woocher
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> *From:* Law-election [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu
> <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> Scarberry
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2018 2:20 PM
> *To:* Election Law Listserv
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] “Michael Cohen’s Guilty Plea Directly Implicates
> Donald Trump in a Felony”
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> As Adam helpfully noted, the federal felony "Information" setting out the
> charges against Cohen can be found here:
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> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4779531-Information-Felony.html
> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.documentcloud.org%2fdocuments%2f4779531-Information-Felony.html&c=E,1,27Z-hPbfppPbVV0oVUyJmS-pjqtcigoZ0EUO0IiKH0X-u-rvnGRkakPJPBtFpXNYOCtvSn9ZxyrtB0uHlt6qQ-GWdtR4TSGbe5NgYV_3dC-JvamUdMc,&typo=1>
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> Here are some comments, based on an initial reading (and repeating some of
> what I said in an earlier post). I hope I have understood the information
> correctly. Others may be able to correct any mistakes.
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> Counts 1-5 are tax evasion. Count 6 is for defrauding banks. As far as I
> can tell, these counts are unrelated to Pres. Trump or his campaign.
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> Count 7 is for causing a corporation to make, in effect, an illegal
> contribution to Pres. Trump's campaign by paying hush money.
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> Count 8 is a charge that Cohen himself made a contribution to the campaign
> in excess of the statutory limits on contributions, by paying hush money
> "in cooperation, consultation, and concert with, and at the request and
> suggestion of one or more members of the campaign."
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> I need to read the information again more carefully, but I think only
> Count 8 involves alleged involvement of the campaign (beyond Cohen's own
> role in the campaign). I also don't think there is an allegation that any
> failure to disclose any of these matters was a crime.
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> I wonder whether Counts 7 and 8 are sustainable if the corporation or
> Cohen acted as Trump's agent in making payments and then received prompt
> reimbursement from Trump, or from campaign funds legally raised by the
> campaign. I don't remember whether Trump has admitted making such
> reimbursements.
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> Campaign expenses are generally, I think, incurred by agents, including
> corporations, such as ad agencies, with reimbursement expected either under
> agency law or pursuant to an express promise of reimbursement. I don't
> think a promptly reimbursed expenditure by an agent should be treated as a
> loan, but I could be wrong (as I often am). If the candidate promptly
> reimburses the agent, I think Buckley protects the expenditure and
> reimbursement. If the campaign reimburses the agent with properly raised
> campaign funds, it also seems that there is no crime. If Trump did
> reimburse these expenditures, but not promptly, I suppose we could say that
> the agent made a loan. I suppose that for Cohen or the corporation to be an
> agent, they would have had to act with Trump's authorization; I don't know
> whether that was the case.
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> Again, this is based on a first-reading of the information and my perhaps
> idiosyncratic reading of the law..
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> Mark
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> Prof. Mark S. Scarberry
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> Pepperdine Univ. School of Law
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> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Adam Bonin <adam at boninlaw.com> wrote:
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> The felony information is here:
> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4779531-Information-Felony.html
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