[EL] AZ

Jonathan Rodden jrodden at stanford.edu
Fri Nov 9 09:52:40 PST 2018


Right.  It seems that if one didn’t manage to send in the ballot by the end of October, the obvious thing to do would be to drop it off on election day at a polling place, as Paul described.  But quite a few people evidently check the box for the permanent early voting list without realizing it, or they forget, and then move to a new address.  Ballots cannot be forwarded, so a number of people on the PEV list don’t receive a ballot, and thus show up at a polling place (often the wrong one).  The interaction between in-person and permanent early voting in a setting with lots of residential instability adds some complexity.




From: "cstewart at mit.edu" <cstewart at mit.edu>
Date: Friday, November 9, 2018 at 8:55 AM
To: "jrodden at stanford.edu" <jrodden at stanford.edu>, "Pildes, Rick" <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>, "law-election at department-lists.uci.edu" <law-election at department-lists.uci.edu>
Subject: RE: [EL] AZ

There’s also the matter that Arizona has a ton of provisional ballots.  It’s been explained to me that this is a consequence of the large number of people on the permanent absentee roles who nonetheless show up to vote in person.

-cs

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From: Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> On Behalf Of Jonathan Rodden
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 11:43 AM
To: Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; law-election at department-lists.uci.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] AZ

I think it is a combination of those two.  My understanding is that the counties prioritize counting the in-person ballots, and then move on to the mail-in ballots.  Also, if one mails a ballot from rural Apache County, the county election administrator told me that it goes by truck to a mail sorting center in New Mexico, then goes by truck to Phoenix, and then on to the Apache County election administration office—a process that takes several days.

JR

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Date: Friday, November 9, 2018 at 8:31 AM
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Subject: [EL] AZ

Can someone explain why AZ has so many outstanding ballots to count – 400,000 as of last night in a state where around 1.9 million votes have been counted so far.  Does AZ not start counting mail-in ballots until after the polls close?  Or are these all mail-in ballots that arrived after election day but were postmarked before, which seems unlikely?

Thanks.


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