[EL] Census case
Pildes, Rick
rick.pildes at nyu.edu
Thu Jun 27 10:39:45 PDT 2019
Thus far, I continue to believe it is legally correct to conclude that, as Sam says, there is no basis for any further proceedings in the MD case. That means there is no basis now even for discovery to go forward, contrary to Josh’s view. The Supreme Court has already affirmed an injunction against the citizenship question. For now, no citizenship question can be used. Put it this way, I’m sure it would be obvious to all that if the government does not decide to try to add the citizenship question again, with a different rationale, the MD case as moot. But that’s exactly what the situation is as of now. For that reason, there is no basis for the MD courts to do anything at this point.
Normally, that would be mean the case would be dismissed as moot. But in this context, I can understand the lower courts retaining jurisdiction over the matter for the time being, given the imminent prospect that the government might decide to add the question after a new process that produces a new justification (if there is time for that). If the question is added for new reasons, the courts will then determine whether those new reasons are adequate. In doing that, they will certainly look to the entire history of the adoption of the question. But they will be adjudicating the new policy, not the one enjoined today. And until the government goes forward (if it does) there is no live controversy that would provide a basis for the federal courts in MD to do anything.
Best,
Rick
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Subject: Re: [EL] Census case
I don't disagree with the substantive analysis in Rick Hasen's Slate piece (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/john-roberts-trump-census-question-supreme-court-october.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__slate.com_news-2Dand-2Dpolitics_2019_06_john-2Droberts-2Dtrump-2Dcensus-2Dquestion-2Dsupreme-2Dcourt-2Doctober.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=v3oz9bpMizgP1T8KwLv3YT-_iypxaOkdtbkRAclgHRk&m=cKex9rTR0sQt3JOrqe0F6owSUTO5kTuqTENCMznvIlI&s=BbEuXlCkYWeiWK8c8qtpRREy3sKB39uZpJ6uTeZSCVg&e=>), but I don't think it answers Rick Pildes's procedural question. Right now there's no citizenship question to enjoin, so there's no live controversy in the Maryland case. If the administration makes a new decision to add a citizenship question, then there will be a live controversy (in which APA and equal protection issues will presumably be litigated). I don't see anything in the Slate piece that addresses the procedural point.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:27 PM Josh Blackman <joshblackman at gmail.com<mailto:joshblackman at gmail.com>> wrote:
An injunction may yet be proper, but not one issued today or tomorrow (as I anticipated). The government would first have to propose a new justification, which could then be enjoined.
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:25 AM Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu<mailto:rhasen at law.uci.edu>> wrote:
Strongly disagree on that point. A separate injunction barring the inclusion of the question will be necessary in the event the Commerce Dept tries to come back with a new reason for including the question.
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Subject: Re: [EL] Census case
The Maryland case is still live, but there is no need to issue an urgent injunction now because the Court remanded the New York case. I think discovery could still proceed, unless the Court stays that decision.
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:21 AM Rick Hasen <rhasen at law.uci.edu<mailto:rhasen at law.uci.edu>> wrote:
I disagree, and think the case is still live.
I’ve got a piece posting to Slate in a few minutes making this point.
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Subject: [EL] Census case
I have seen journalists saying that the EP litigation in MD on the Census case will now go forward. I would think today’s decision instead moots that litigation. The citizenship question cannot now be added to the Census form. There is no longer a live issue in front of those courts.
IF the Commerce Department does determine again to add a citizenship question and does provide a new and different rationale for doing so, then that decision will of course be litigated. And plaintiffs might argue that the “new” citizenship question rests on a discriminatory purpose. In addition, they might well seek to show that the original decision itself rested on a discriminatory purpose, and that the “new” question is tainted by the prior one.
But that’s all for future litigation. The pending case on the “old” question in MD is now moot. Do other disagree with that analysis?
Best,
Rick
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Subject: Re: [EL] Breaking: Supreme Court, on 5-4 vote, holds partisan gerrymandering cases nonjusticiable
The fact that he mentions there are approximately the same number of constituents in each district clearly indicates he is talking about everyone.
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On Jun 27, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu<mailto:rick.pildes at nyu.edu>> wrote:
I think the instinct – and I call it that, an instinct, not necessarily a thought-through position -- behind the statement is that anyone in your district is a constituent. He certainly could have used “voters” or “eligible voters” or “citizens.” I don’t think legislative offices turn away resident aliens who seek assistance, for example, because they are not “constituents.”
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Rick
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Subject: Re: [EL] Breaking: Supreme Court, on 5-4 vote, holds partisan gerrymandering cases nonjusticiable
How do you think he defines “ constituents”?
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On Jun 27, 2019, at 5:34 PM, Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu<mailto:rick.pildes at nyu.edu<mailto:rick.pildes at nyu.edu%3cmailto:rick.pildes at nyu.edu>>> wrote:
In describing the one-person, one-vote doctrine, CJ Roberts says: “each representative must be accountable to (approximately) the same number of constituents (my emphasis).
If states/localities ever do redistrict based on eligible voters rather than population, I am sure that line will be quoted extensively.
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Rick
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Subject: Re: [EL] Breaking: Supreme Court, on 5-4 vote, holds partisan gerrymandering cases nonjusticiable
I'm not sure that's even an option. District court already determined that Commerce had never offered other reasons, and remanded just to confirm that Commerce had general jurisdiction to run the Census. See pp 266-70. https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legal-work/2019-01-15-574-Findings%20Of%20Fact.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.brennancenter.org_sites_default_files_legal-2Dwork_2019-2D01-2D15-2D574-2DFindings-2520Of-2520Fact.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=v3oz9bpMizgP1T8KwLv3YT-_iypxaOkdtbkRAclgHRk&m=u8t00AvRASWqjrPm3xcP6xNWK7zXurfDOqrkC6XFzHc&s=-GeSXw67sotv25U19eXvb00wdCy7Qan56cOs8AQnRs8&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.brennancenter.org_sites_default_files_legal-2Dwork_2019-2D01-2D15-2D574-2DFindings-2520Of-2520Fact.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=v3oz9bpMizgP1T8KwLv3YT-_iypxaOkdtbkRAclgHRk&m=RA3I3ICHNYmQJtNUZWXLidhEuR_Mc_PixfOfW1tqM_4&s=LbJENb2EllxoCgCoJ2HVRc8NEUPigx0yk1vjzx_rQuE&e=>
in short, wrote Judge Furman:
Remand, meanwhile, is appropriate as well, in recognition of the fact that Congress delegated its authority over administration of the census to the Secretary of Commerce, not to this Court. That is not to say that Defendants can or would be able to remedy the defects in Secretary Ross’s decision that this Court has found in time for the 2020 census. But to the extent that a “remand” is even necessary to make clear that the Secretary of Commerce retains authority to make decisions about the census, so long as they are consistent with law and this Court’s Opinion, a remand is appropriate.
The parties’ respective arguments for an alternative remedy are unpersuasive. For their part, Defendants contend that remand without vacatur is “the only potentially appropriate remedy.” Defs.’ Post-Trial Br. 83-85, ¶¶ 80-85. Putting aside whether such a remedy is consistent with the plain language of the APA, it is inappropriate here. Courts authorizing remand without vacatur have done so where the agency shows “at least a serious possibility that [it] will be able to substantiate its decision on remand” and that “the consequences of vacating may be quite disruptive.” Allied-Signal, Inc., 988 F.2d at 151. Defendants have done neither here. The problem with Secretary Ross’s decision was not that it was inadequately explained, but rather that it was substantively arbitrary and capricious and “not in accordance” with statutes that constrain his discretion. And as Plaintiffs correctly point out, “the Secretary has never suggested an alternative basis for his decision.” Pls.’ Proposed Conclusions ¶ 456. Notably, Defendants offer nothing more than a bare conclusory assertion that “there is a non-trivial likelihood that the agency will be able to state a valid legal basis for its decision” on remand. Defs.’ Post-Trial Br. 84, ¶ 83 (internal quotation marks and alterations omitted). Nothing in either the Administrative Record or the trial record even remotely suggests such a “likelihood.”
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Here’s the link to the opinion:
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Question is whether agency can come up with another explanation in time
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Subject: Re: [EL] Breaking: Supreme Court, on 5-4 vote, holds partisan gerrymandering cases nonjusticiable
Census case got remanded on the grounds that the VRA enforcement rationale can’t support the decision to ask the citizenship question.
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