[EL] GOP pushes absentee ballot applications and Trump condems "mail in balloting"

Mon Apr 13 05:23:08 PDT 2020

As I understand it, that's the California system--and it's what Rick has
been suggesting.

Any reason Democrats and many Republicans in Congress shouldn't be trying
to enact a statute requiring states to do at least *that *(and allowing but
not requiring them to go further toward the Oregon model if they wish)?

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:49 AM Trevor Potter <tpotter at capdale.com> wrote:

> There is another difference between the two regimes Jim describes —
> perhaps a compromise— in which “no-excuse “ absentee ballot requests are
> mailed to every voter , so that those who wish to vote by mail may easily
> request a ballot. Several states are heading down this path...
> Trevor Potter
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> Subject: [EL] GOP pushes absentee ballot applications and Trump condems
> "mail in balloting"
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> This is the problem with conflating "absentee balloting" and current "mail
> in balloting" schemes -- it leads to partisan attacks claiming phony
> hypocrisy.
>
> While both traditional "absentee balloting" and current "mail in
> balloting" schemes promoted by Democrats involve "mailing a ballot," this
> is superficial. There is at least one big substantive difference which
> leads Republicans and Trump to support and use absentee balloting, as the
> WaPo correctly points out, while opposing current "mail in balloting"
> schemes.
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> In absentee balloting, a prior application is required in order to get a
> ballot and that is what many GOP state parties are now promoting.
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> In current mail in balloting scheme, no application is needed and ballots
> are just mailed wholesale to all registered voters. Republican believe that
> this required application is a vital fraud protection measure and is an
> important basis for Republican's opposition.
>
> I really think we need to understand the difference and get the
> terminology right. Jim Bopp
>
> In a message dated 4/12/2020 11:55:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> rhasen at law.uci.edu writes:
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> “GOP pushes voting by mail — with restrictions — as Trump attacks it as
> ‘corrupt’”<https://electionlawblog.org/?p=110678>
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> Posted on April 12, 2020 3:13 pm<https://electionlawblog.org/?p=110678>
> by Rick Hasen<https://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
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> WaPo<
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-pushes-voting-by-mail--with-restrictions--as-trump-attacks-it-as-corrupt/2020/04/12/526057a4-7bf8-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_politics&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=rss
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> The same week President Trump told the public that voting by mail is
> “corrupt<
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-calls-vote-by-mail-efforts-corrupt/2020/04/08/ad9b3706-3072-41a3-87a6-2525ae6be436_video.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_1&itid=lk_inline_manual_1>”
> and “ripe for fraud<
> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1248031484532928514>,” his own
> party was sending a very different message to Republican voters in
> Pennsylvania.
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> “Voting by mail is an easy, convenient and secure way to cast your
> ballot,” read a mail piece the Republican National Committee distributed
> across the Keystone State. “Return the attached official Republican Party
> mail-in ballot application to avoid lines and protect yourself from large
> crowds on Election Day.”
>
> Despite the president’s rhetoric, state party leaders across the country
> are aggressively urging their voters to cast ballots by mail, GOP officials
> confirm. In addition, Republican officeholders in at least 16 states that
> do not have all-mail elections are encouraging people to vote absentee
> during the ongoing coronavirus<
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_3&itid=lk_inline_manual_3>
> pandemic, according to a tally by The Washington Post.
>
> Ohio SOS LaRose<https://twitter.com/FrankLaRose/status/1249378551217950720
> >:
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> [cid:Me7GJLgc6JfMlwNwDQaX]<https://twitter.com/lbischoff>
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> Laura Bischoff at lbischoff<https://twitter.com/lbischoff>
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> 15h<https://twitter.com/lbischoff/status/1249311501472731138>
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> Ohio is currently conducting mail-in voting. Your ballot must be
> postmarked by April 27 to be counted. @FrankLaRose<
> https://twitter.com/FrankLaRose> - how do you respond to @realDonaldTrump<
> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump>'s statement?
> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249132374547464193 …<
> https://t.co/bcoj2D1cNd>
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> Mail in ballots substantially increases the risk of crime and VOTER FRAUD!<
> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249132374547464193>
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> [cid:JNk9x0M5sgPrBktX5KMh]<https://twitter.com/FrankLaRose>
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> I can tell you that’s not the case in Ohio. As I’ve said, we’re fortunate
> that we’ve been doing vote by mail for a long time. We know how to do it,
> and we know how to get it done securely.
>
> Hope we can get back to normal for November, but we’ll be ready no matter
> the situation.
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