[EL] GOP pushes absentee ballot applications and Trump condems "mail in balloting"

Mon Apr 13 13:02:39 PDT 2020

Just to clarify: SOME California counties are using the state's new "Vote
Center" model. Most are still on the more traditional California approach,
and Los Angeles County is a hybrid.

California's "traditional" approach is precinct-level election-day polling
places with ballots mailed only to voters registered as "permanent
absentee" and to those who request a ballot. No reason is necessary either
to request a ballot or to request to be on the permanent absentee list.

California's "vote center" model, which first appeared in the 2018
elections, enables counties that elect to participate to offer early voting
and election day voting in a greatly reduced number of "vote centers"
spread around the county, while mailing ballots to every registered voter.
In March 2020, fourteen of California's 58 counties used the "vote center"
model. Any details you want (including a list of participating counties) is
available from a dedicated information page for that program on the Secretary
of State's website <https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voters-choice-act/>.

For 2020 elections, Los Angeles County has election day vote centers but
only mails ballots to voters registered as "permanent absentee" and to
those who request a ballot.

  - Doug

Douglas Johnson
Rose Institute of State and Local Government at Claremont McKenna College
National Demographics Corporation

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:35 PM Mark Scarberry <
mark.scarberry at pepperdine.edu> wrote:

> I may be misunderstanding Larry's point, but California already does mail
> applications to all registered voters.
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> Mark
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> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:16 AM <larrylevine at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> Back years ago, before California went to Permanent Absentee Voters –
>> allowing a registered voter to register for an absentee ballot for every
>> election and allowing others to request for a specific election – we
>> (partisan campaigns) would mail applications to targeted voters. They would
>> be complete except for the voter’s signature. At first they had to be sent
>> back to the elections office. Then the law was changed to allow them to be
>> mailed back to campaign headquarters and require that the campaign deliver
>> them to the elections office within 72 hours to prevent warehousing them to
>> blind-side the opposition and overburden registrars at the last minute.
>> Under this proposal to send applications to all voters, the individual
>> campaigns and parties would certainly have a high incentive to harvest
>> applications to  make sure their voters would receive a ballot. I can just
>> hear the howl go up in opposition to application harvesting. You can fill
>> in who would howl and all the reasons why.
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>> Larry
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>> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> *On
>> Behalf Of *Trevor Potter
>> *Sent:* Monday, 13 April 2020 4:49 AM
>> *To:* James Bopp Jr <jboppjr at aol.com>; rhasen at law.uci.edu;
>> law-election at uci.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [EL] GOP pushes absentee ballot applications and Trump
>> condems "mail in balloting"
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>> There is another difference between the two regimes Jim describes —
>> perhaps a compromise— in which “no-excuse “ absentee ballot requests are
>> mailed to every voter , so that those who wish to vote by mail may easily
>> request a ballot. Several states are heading down this path...
>> Trevor Potter
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>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:32 AM
>> To: rhasen at law.uci.edu; law-election at uci.edu
>> Subject: [EL] GOP pushes absentee ballot applications and Trump condems
>> "mail in balloting"
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>> This is the problem with conflating "absentee balloting" and current
>> "mail in balloting" schemes -- it leads to partisan attacks claiming phony
>> hypocrisy.
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>> While both traditional "absentee balloting" and current "mail in
>> balloting" schemes promoted by Democrats involve "mailing a ballot," this
>> is superficial. There is at least one big substantive difference which
>> leads Republicans and Trump to support and use absentee balloting, as the
>> WaPo correctly points out, while opposing current "mail in balloting"
>> schemes.
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>> In absentee balloting, a prior application is required in order to get a
>> ballot and that is what many GOP state parties are now promoting.
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>> In current mail in balloting scheme, no application is needed and ballots
>> are just mailed wholesale to all registered voters. Republican believe that
>> this required application is a vital fraud protection measure and is an
>> important basis for Republican's opposition.
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>> I really think we need to understand the difference and get the
>> terminology right. Jim Bopp
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>> In a message dated 4/12/2020 11:55:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
>> rhasen at law.uci.edu writes:
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>> “GOP pushes voting by mail — with restrictions — as Trump attacks it as
>> ‘corrupt’”<https://electionlawblog.org/?p=110678>
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>> Posted on April 12, 2020 3:13 pm<https://electionlawblog.org/?p=110678>
>> by Rick Hasen<https://electionlawblog.org/?author=3>
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>> WaPo<
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-pushes-voting-by-mail--with-restrictions--as-trump-attacks-it-as-corrupt/2020/04/12/526057a4-7bf8-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_politics&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=rss
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>> The same week President Trump told the public that voting by mail is
>> “corrupt<
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-calls-vote-by-mail-efforts-corrupt/2020/04/08/ad9b3706-3072-41a3-87a6-2525ae6be436_video.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_1&itid=lk_inline_manual_1>”
>> and “ripe for fraud<
>> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1248031484532928514>,” his
>> own party was sending a very different message to Republican voters in
>> Pennsylvania.
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>> “Voting by mail is an easy, convenient and secure way to cast your
>> ballot,” read a mail piece the Republican National Committee distributed
>> across the Keystone State. “Return the attached official Republican Party
>> mail-in ballot application to avoid lines and protect yourself from large
>> crowds on Election Day.”
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>> Despite the president’s rhetoric, state party leaders across the country
>> are aggressively urging their voters to cast ballots by mail, GOP officials
>> confirm. In addition, Republican officeholders in at least 16 states that
>> do not have all-mail elections are encouraging people to vote absentee
>> during the ongoing coronavirus<
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/28/what-you-need-know-about-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_3&itid=lk_inline_manual_3>
>> pandemic, according to a tally by The Washington Post.
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>> Ohio SOS LaRose<
>> https://twitter.com/FrankLaRose/status/1249378551217950720>:
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>> Ohio is currently conducting mail-in voting. Your ballot must be
>> postmarked by April 27 to be counted. @FrankLaRose<
>> https://twitter.com/FrankLaRose> - how do you respond to
>> @realDonaldTrump<https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump>'s statement?
>> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249132374547464193 …<
>> https://t.co/bcoj2D1cNd>
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>> Mail in ballots substantially increases the risk of crime and VOTER
>> FRAUD!<https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249132374547464193>
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>> I can tell you that’s not the case in Ohio. As I’ve said, we’re fortunate
>> that we’ve been doing vote by mail for a long time. We know how to do it,
>> and we know how to get it done securely.
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>> Hope we can get back to normal for November, but we’ll be ready no matter
>> the situation.
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