[EL] Quick Question About Provisional Voting in California

D. A. Holtzman d at LAvoteFIRE.org
Wed Aug 26 15:30:21 PDT 2020


Do ePollbooks communicate via the Internet or via non-Internet networks 
only?
(Network hardware was deployed at polling places in Los Angeles County.)
Either way, how secure are the networks?
I’m worried about malware-induced delays or errors in communicating.


Do ePollbooks count as part of a “voting system?”If yes, and if they 
communicate via the Internet, the voting system would not be eligible 
for purchase with Proposition 41 (Voting Modernization Bond Act of 2002) 
funds in California.


I still think the cleanest and most transparent way to implement the 
“last vote counts” idea is to refrain from extracting ballots from 
return envelopes until 10AM the day after election day (if a complete 
dataset of who voted at the polls is available and put into service for 
comparing with the envelopes by then).


And of course I like the “last vote counts” idea, especially when 
candidates are dropping out of contests (as in the Democratic 
presidential primaries) and ballots don’t allow ranked-choice voting.


- David H.


On 8/26/2020 1:07 PM, Mary Hill wrote:
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> Scott,
>
> Basically correct. It’s much easier to check if a VBM has been 
> returned in a Vote Center County, as we have ePollbooks, or tech 
> connected to VoteCal where it’s logged once a voter votes. For non-VCA 
> counties, it’s pre-mark on the pollbook if a non-regular VBM voter 
> voted, surrender the VBM ballot, or vote provisionally, since right 
> around E-14 is when non VCA counties need to print their pollbooks for 
> use on Nov 3^rd .
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> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:00:11 -0700
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> I haven't read through the entire thread, but beginning in the 2018 
> primary, SB 286 requires polling sites to issue nonprovisional ballots 
> upon
> surrender or if the poll book verifies that the VBM has not been 
> "returned," since it can be marked to prevent the VBM from being
> subsequently "cast or tabulated." (amended Section 3015) This would 
> appear to be a cancellation of the prior ballot for purposes of
> Section 18 of the VRA, so a person whose ballot was mailed but not yet 
> received would not be double voting.
> I don't think the emergency rules change that.
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