[EL] question about Pennsylvania official election returns

[sean at impactpolicymanagement.com]

Doh! That should be, Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar, not Secretary of State.

 

Sean

 

From: Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> On Behalf Of sean at impactpolicymanagement.com
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Cc: 'Adam Yake' <ayake at pa.gov>
Subject: Re: [EL] question about Pennsylvania official election returns

 

The Certificate of Ascertainment probably wouldn’t have that sort of information (though states have wide latitude in the format and information included on the document, some states literally don’t even list which presidential candidate is associated with the winning – or any other – slate of electors). But my assumption would be that it does not include those ballots, as the litigation surrounding them is still ongoing. SCOTUSblog has a (hopefully accurate) chronology <https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/republican-party-of-pennsylvania-v-boockvar-2/>  of the case, in which the most recent action was a filing by Secretary of State Boockvar on November 30. So those ballots are likely still segregated and uncounted, and if eventually ruled to be legal ballots will be included in some sort of amended certified results (though the Certificate of Ascertainment will not be amended, of course).

 

Sean Parnell

 

From: Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> On Behalf Of John Koza
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Subject: Re: [EL] question about Pennsylvania official election returns

 

Pennsylvania has a Certificate of Ascertainment at the National Archives web site dated November 24 at

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-pennsylvania.pdf   However, it doesn’t say whether it includes the mail ballots arriving in the 3 days after Election Day.

 

Dr. John R. Koza

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URL: www.NationalPopularVote.com <http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/> 

 

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Cc: Adam Yake <ayake at pa.gov <mailto:ayake at pa.gov> >
Subject: [EL] question about Pennsylvania official election returns

 

I now have the official election returns for every state except Pennsylvania.  If one goes to http://www.electionreturns.pa.gov, one sees Nov 2020 election returns but the page says, "These vote totals do not include any votes from mail ballots received between 8 pm on election day and 5 pm the following Friday."

 

I tried phoning the Pa. Dept. of State, but after waiting on hold for 30 minutes, a computer voice said it was impossible to reach a human being, and let me leave a voice mail, and hung up.

 

Does anyone know how to get the final Pa. results, or know where they can be found?  Perhaps they don't exist yet.

 

Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147

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