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[Elias, Marc (Perkins Coie)]

With all due respect, the President is an impulsive liar. He wants to win and is making up lies as he goes based on what he thinks will benefit him politically.

It’s not more complicated than that.


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From: Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> on behalf of Pamela Karlan <pkarlan at stanford.edu>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2020 at 6:37 PM
To: Paul Gronke <paul.gronke at gmail.com>
Cc: "edu law-election at uci. edu law-election at uci." <law-election at uci.edu>
Subject: Re: [EL] (no subject)

It’s unclear to me whether the distinction that informed people draw between the two is the one President Trump draws.  I think it’s entirely possible that he limits what he thinks of as “good” “absentee” voting to people who vote by mail because they are physically absent from the jurisdiction on Election Day (as he has been from Palm Beach) — or perhaps people who are physically unable to go to the polls — and that what he condemns about “universal” mail-in voting would extend to any form of “universal” ability to cast a mail-in ballot, whether the ballot comes automatically to the voter, as in Oregon, or requires the voter first to request the ballot.  In other words, I do not necessarily read President Trump as approving the idea of what’s often called “no excuse” absentee voting.
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On Jul 30, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Paul Gronke <paul.gronke at gmail.com> wrote:
He’s done that now. Someone whispered this distinction in his ear.

A few weeks ago, he was eliding the distinction. (Check: obscure term usage of the week.)

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On Jul 30, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu<mailto:rick.pildes at nyu.edu>> wrote:

Pres. Trump does continue to distinguish between absentee voting (good) and “universal mail-in voting” (bad).  A tweet from about ½ hour ago:
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Glad I was able to get the very dishonest LameStream Media to finally start talking about the RISKS to our Democracy from dangerous Universal Mail-In-Voting (not Absentee Voting, which I totally support!).


Best,
Rick

Richard H. Pildes
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