[EL] President Trump, the Virus, and the Election

Chambers, Hank hchamber at richmond.edu
Fri Oct 2 07:46:40 PDT 2020 

That may depend on what you mean by early voting.  Does early voting include filling out and mailing a ballot two weeks before election day in a jurisdiction that requires mail-in ballots be received by election day? 

I know many people who are voting for the party rather than the candidate. Nothing that occurs between now and election day will change their mind.  If their early voting takes pressure off of election day voting processes, early voting may yet be helpful.


-Hank  

Henry L. Chambers, Jr.
Austin E. Owen Research Scholar and Professor of Law
University of Richmond School of Law
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There has probably never been a better example of the fundamental problem with early voting.

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But of course those who vote early in person cannot change their vote.


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Apparently 7 states do allow voters to change their absentee ballots, but of course only one vote will count. Those states are Wisconsin; Minnesota; Michigan; Pennsylvania; New York; Connecticut; and Mississippi.


https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/changing-early-vote-cast/index.html

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With early votes, I’m not sure anything can be done.

With absentees, it would vary by state.



Best,

Rick



Richard H. Pildes

Sudler Family Professor of Constitutional Law

NYU School of Law

40 Washington Square So.

NYC, NY 10014

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And what happens to the already-cast votes for a candidate who has been replaced?  I imagine not every state has a law that addresses this.



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