[EL] Voter ID req. vs. mask requirement?

Thu Oct 29 17:30:46 PDT 2020

Re: this thread, see our memo on mask rules for voters in the different
states:
https://healthyelections.org/sites/default/files/2020-10/Mask_Rules.pdf

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On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 5:17 PM Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu> wrote:

> Josh, thanks for sending this FL story.  As is all too common, the Broward
> County Supervisor of Elections told the police masks are not in fact
> required.  But the poll worker thought they were (or should be).  This is
> like the stories we frequently see of poll workers who ask for photo IDs
> when state law does not require them.
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> Best,
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> Rick
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> Richard H. Pildes
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> *From:* Douglas, Joshua A. [mailto:joshuadouglas at uky.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2020 6:45 PM
> *To:* Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; Jessie Allen <
> jessieallen101 at gmail.com>; Kogan, Vladimir <kogan.18 at osu.edu>
> *Cc:* Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] Voter ID req. vs. mask requirement?
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> There has been at least one instance (in Fort Lauderdale) where voters
> were turned away from elections the polls for failing to wear a mask
> (they said for medical reasons); police were called; and then they were
> eventually allowed to vote. More here: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/
> /fl-ne-police-called-on-maskless-voters-coral-ridge-20201019-acudv726fjcmjnnloejexdvpaq-story.html
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> Four Broward voters refused to wear masks but were allowed to vote anyway
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> on
> behalf of Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2020 6:41 PM
> *To:* Jessie Allen <jessieallen101 at gmail.com>; Kogan, Vladimir <
> kogan.18 at osu.edu>
> *Cc:* Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] Voter ID req. vs. mask requirement?
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> Agree with Jessie – it might be unconstitutional to condition voting on
> willingness to wear a mask, but even if it is constitutional, the last
> thing state officials want is confrontations at the polls over this.
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> *From:* Law-election [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu
> <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Jessie
> Allen
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2020 6:25 PM
> *To:* Kogan, Vladimir <kogan.18 at osu.edu>
> *Cc:* Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] Voter ID req. vs. mask requirement?
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> I think it is pretty clear that it is a political choice not to require
> masks -- not a constitutional interpretation.  You are right that the
> burdens are comparatively trivial -- especially in states where voters
> could choose to avoid the polls altogether and vote by mail.  Iin
> Pennsylvania masks are not required at the polls but they are in churches
> and synagogues, and worshipers probably can't pray by mail.  State
> officials have apparently made the calculation that the political
> polarization over mask wearing is so great that enforcing mask orders at
> the polls would risk disruptions that outweigh the health risks. That is
> certainly a questionable public health result, especially for poll workers,
> but I suppose understandable.
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> Jessie Allen
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> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 6:06 PM Kogan, Vladimir <kogan.18 at osu.edu> wrote:
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> My wife is in the process of completing her training to be a poll worker,
> and part of the training discusses what to do if a voter shows up and
> insists on voting without a mask. The training says to encourage the voter
> to cast his/her ballot outside curbside — but stresses that, if the voter
> insists, he/she must be allowed to cast a ballot inside at the voting
> location. Our secretary of state has stated
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> that “voters are guaranteed the right to vote in the U.S. Constitution, so
> he has to allow them into the polls if they insist.”
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> Ohio is a strict (non-photo) voter ID law state, so my wife noted the
> interesting asymmetry here . It seems like one could make a strong argument
> that, under *Crawford v. Marion County Election Board*, requiring a mask
> as a precondition for voting in person would be entirely reasonable. The
> state interest in limiting the spread of a deadly virus seems at least as
> weighty as the interests offered in *Crawford*. And the empirical
> evidence for the effectiveness of the policy is also stronger — masks are
> at least as effective in reducing COVID risk as voter IDs are reducing risk
> of fraud, etc. The burdens, on the other hand, seem quite trivial. Masks
> will be provided and voters who don’t want to wear a mask can vote by mail
> or curbside.
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> Certainly, there is a small number of voters with medical conditions
> and/or other trauma for whom wearing a mask is particularly burdensome. But
> Justice Scalia’s concurrence in *Crawford *argues that the
> *Anderson-Burdick* balancing test is about the burden for the *average*
> voter, not the burdens faced by a small, select subset. A mask requirement,
> like Indiana’s photo-identification law, would be “generally applicable,
> nondiscriminatory voting regulation, and our precedents refute the view
> that individual impacts are relevant to determining the severity of the
> burden it imposes.”
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> I’m curious anyone has thought/written about this, or whether this has
> been raised in any litigation this year?
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> Thanks!
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