[EL] Newsom recall lawsuit

Tom@TomCares.com Tom at tomcares.com
Tue Aug 17 14:02:06 PDT 2021


If it's constitutional to deny ballot access to a governor on the basis
that they have already served two terms (a prohibition itself adopted by
voters), then why wouldn't it be constitutional to deny it on the basis of
a majority of voters having just decided that they shall no longer be
governor?

-Tom Cares

On Tue, 17 Aug 2021, 21:47 D. A. Holtzman, <d at lavotefire.org> wrote:

> Richard writes, "if a court wanted to, it could order the write-in tally
> for Newsom counted."  But would a court be *allowed* to?
>   - david h.
>
> On 8/17/2021 11:04 AM, Richard Winger wrote:
>
> California permits write-in votes in the bottom half of recall elections.
> Although California requires write-in candidates to file a declaration of
> candidacy if they want their write-ins counted, nevertheless in theory
> Gavin Newsom and his supporters were always free to urge voters to write-in
> Gavin Newsom in the write-in space. Vote-counting equipment does
> electronically know which ballots have a write-in choice written in, and if
> a court wanted to, it could order the write-in tally for Newsom counted.
>
> Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 11:00:06 AM PDT, Christopher S. Elmendorf
> <cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu> <cselmendorf at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Apropos Ned’s post below, some of you may be interested in the exchange
> Michael Morley and I had about this via Twitter. (See here
> <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425689773058904071> and here
> <https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1425865285819457542>.) We both
> think the problem with the CA’s recall election procedure would be better
> analyzed through the lens of the ballot-access precedents, not 1p1v. I
> think there’s a constitutional problem; Michael is more skeptical.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
> ------
>
> Christopher S. Elmendorf
>
> Martin Luther King, Jr. Professor of Law
>
> UC Davis School of Law
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>
>
>
>
> *From: *Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu>
> <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> on behalf of Rick Hasen
> <rhasen at law.uci.edu> <rhasen at law.uci.edu>
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:36 AM
> *To: *Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu> <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject: *[EL] FW: Election Law Blog: ELB News and Commentary
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> *Subject:* Election Law Blog: ELB News and Commentary
>
> To build off Ned's post, and setting aside the major laches problem to
> this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at Justia have a pretty thorough
> defense of California's process, a process that disqualifies a recalled
> governor from seeking… Continue ...
>
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> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
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> [image: Election Law Blog]
> Election Law Blog: ELB News and Commentary
> * ------------------------------ *
>
>    1. Qualifications for candidates running in California’s gubernatorial
>    recall
>    <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124133>
>    2. Newsom recall lawsuit
>    <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>
>    3. Bernie Grofman: “How Best to do Prison Population Data
>    Reallocation, i.e., How Best to Mitigate Prison Gerrymandering?”
>    <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124127>
>    4. 2021 Election Law Teacher Database Now Available
>    <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124125>
>    5. What new census data tell us about Pa.’s politics: More influence
>    for Philly and Latinos, and a shrinking white vote
>    <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124120>
>    6. “Protect Democracy Joins Defamation Suit Against Project Veritas:
>    Right-Wing Group Maliciously Lied About a PA Postmaster In the Aftermath of
>    2020 Election”
>    <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314/https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124121>
>
>
> Qualifications for candidates running in California’s gubernatorial recall
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112500&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> *By Derek Muller, August 17, 2021*
>
> To build off Ned
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>‘s
> post, and setting aside the major laches
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~reason.com/volokh/2020/11/27/laches-and-the-pennsylvania-election-litigation/>
> problem to this lawsuit, Vik Amar and Evan Caminker at Justia
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~verdict.justia.com/2021/08/16/deja-vu-all-over-again-californias-upcoming-recall-vote-for-governor-is-resurfacing-some-old-and-flawed-constitutional-critiques>
> have a pretty thorough defense of California’s process, a process that
> disqualifies a recalled governor from seeking… Continue reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124133>
>
>
> Newsom recall lawsuit
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112502&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> *By Ned Foley, August 17, 2021*
>
> Politico
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/08/16/federal-lawsuit-challenges-california-recall-as-unconstitutional-1390127>
> has a story on a new federal lawsuit raising a constitutional challenge to
> the procedures that California uses for its gubernatorial recall. The
> lawsuit follows upon a NY Times op-ed
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/opinion/california-recall-election-newsom.html>
> from last week by Erwin Chemerinsky and Aaron Edlin,… Continue reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124129>
>
>
> Bernie Grofman: “How Best to do Prison Population Data Reallocation, i.e.,
> How Best to Mitigate Prison Gerrymandering?”
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112504&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> *By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021*
>
> The following is a guest post from my UCI colleague Bernie Grofman
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/www.socsci.uci.edu/~bgrofman/>:
> There are now eleven states that committed to using data on past home
> addresses of prisoners and locating them for redistricting purposes not in
> the prison but… Continue reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124127>
>
>
> 2021 Election Law Teacher Database Now Available
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112506&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> *By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021*
>
> You can download it at this link
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/Election-Law-Database-2021.xlsx>.
>
>
>
> What new census data tell us about Pa.’s politics: More influence for
> Philly and Latinos, and a shrinking white vote
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112510&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> *By Tabatha Abu El-Haj, August 16, 2021*
>
> From Jonathan Tamari and Jonathan Lai at the Philadelphia Inquirer
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pa-politics-geography-census-redistricting-data-20210815.html#loaded>:
> An interesting in-depth analysis of the potential political consequences of
> demographic changes in Pennsylvania—sadly, behind a firewall. Two key
> points beyond the headline: “Philadelphia and suburban Bucks, Chester,
> Delaware,… Continue reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124120>
>
>
> “Protect Democracy Joins Defamation Suit Against Project Veritas:
> Right-Wing Group Maliciously Lied About a PA Postmaster In the Aftermath of
> 2020 Election”
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=180112516&f=1116553&c=7878314&u=102231511>
>
> *By Rick Hasen, August 16, 2021*
>
> Release:
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~protectdemocracy.org/update/protect-democracy-joins-ogg-murphy-perkosky-p-c-in-defamation-suit-against-project-veritas-right-wing-group-maliciously-lied-about-a-pa-postmaster-in-the-aftermath-of-2020-election/>
>  Today, a Pennsylvania judge granted a postmaster’s motion to file an
> amended complaint in a lawsuit filed against the rightwing video production
> house Project Veritas and several individuals. The lawsuit concerns a
> series of defamatory videos, maliciously produced and… Continue reading
> <https://p.feedblitz.com/t3.asp?/1116553/102231511/7878314_/~electionlawblog.org/?p=124121>
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