[EL] when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?

Thu Jan 7 14:47:25 PST 2021

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/georgia-senate-runoff-elections-2021/card/RcNIOzrv0IvmyRm7NlDW

When Would the Georgia Winners Be Certified?

The winners of today's contests in Georgia may take a while to be certified
and get to Washington, meaning the Senate could be stuck at 51 Republicans
-- including Sen. Kelly Loeffler but not David Perdue, whose term expired
-- to 48 Democrats for several weeks after the results become clear.

According to an Associated Press primer
<https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-georgia-elections-house-elections-26d2fb54639ce1754eefd56b6cc9b091>,
Georgia counties have until Jan. 15 to certify results. The secretary of
state, Republican Brad Raffensperger, has until Jan. 22 — two days after
Biden is inaugurated — to certify statewide results.

Mr. Raffensperger’s office notes the law doesn’t require him to wait that
long if everything is in order, but if November is any indication, there
could be court fights or moves by officials across Georgia’s 159 counties
that require the maximum timetable.

Georgia law says that the governor must issue a certificate of election
“immediately” upon his receipt of certified vote totals from Mr.
Raffensperger.

The upshot: Even if Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock pull off victories,
Democrats may not take control of the Senate before Jan. 23. If Ms.
Loeffler or Mr. Perdue win, Republicans will retain control of the Senate.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 5:28 PM Barry Burden <bcburden at wisc.edu> wrote:

> Also see this fresh PolitiFact piece by Lou Jacobson on prior 50-50 splits
> in the Senate and what rules or agreements were adopted:
>
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> https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/07/how-will-senate-work-under-50-50-tie/
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> Barry C. Burden
> Professor, Department of Political Science
> Director, Elections Research Center (elections.wisc.edu)
> University of Wisconsin-Madison
> Twitter: @bcburden
> Web: barryburden.info
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> on
> behalf of Charles H Stewart <cstewart at mit.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:21 PM
> *To:* Hess, Douglas (Doug) <HESSDOUG at Grinnell.EDU>; Mark Scarberry <
> mark.scarberry at pepperdine.edu>; Vladeck, Stephen I <
> SVladeck at law.utexas.edu>; Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; Election
> Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
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> Harris’s replacement has already been appointed, so the swap will be
> quick.  No need for a statewide election.
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> In the 107th Congress, the Senate passed a resolution on opening day
> (SRes 7) designating a slate of Democratic chairs of all the committees,
> followed by the list of Republican chairs, as of 1/20 (subject to
> Republican conference ratification).  Robert Byrd was president pro tem
> from 1/3 – 1/20, when Thurmond took over (until 6/6, when Byrd took over
> agan).
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> On 1/5, the Senate passed SRes 8, the “power sharing agreement.”
> https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/senate-resolution/8/text.
> This CRS report summarizes it:
> https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RS20785.html#_Toc231984084.
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>
> -cs
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> *On
> Behalf Of *Hess, Douglas (Doug)
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 2:32 PM
> *To:* Mark Scarberry <mark.scarberry at pepperdine.edu>; Vladeck, Stephen I <
> SVladeck at law.utexas.edu>; Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; Election
> Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
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> Are there any Senators besides Harris leaving to join the administration?
> Memories of MA and Kerry come to mind.
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> Douglas R Hess
>
> Assistant Professor, Political Science/Policy Studies
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> Grinnell College
>
> *On sabbatical until fall 2021*
>
> *My latest op-ed using Grinnell College National Poll:
> https://bit.ly/hesshess102020 <https://bit.ly/hesshess102020> *
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> *Website: http://www.douglasrhess.com <http://www.douglasrhess.com> *
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> *From:* Mark Scarberry <mark.scarberry at pepperdine.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:30 PM
> *To:* Hess, Douglas (Doug) <HESSDOUG at Grinnell.EDU>; Vladeck, Stephen I <
> SVladeck at law.utexas.edu>; Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; Election
> Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
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> I have heard that the Senate was 50-50 when Cheney was VP and that,
> instead of the GOP taking control, there was a power-sharing arrangement
> between the GOP and Democratic Senate leaders. Does anyone know whether
> that is correct and whether something similar will be put in place this
> time (after Sen. Harris takes office as VP and the Georgia Senators are
> seated)?
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> Mark
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> Mark S. Scarberry
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> Professor of Law
>
> Pepperdine University Caruso School of Law
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> on
> behalf of Hess, Douglas (Doug) <HESSDOUG at Grinnell.EDU>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:22:55 AM
> *To:* Vladeck, Stephen I <SVladeck at law.utexas.edu>; Pildes, Rick <
> rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
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>
> Good point. I was wondering if there’s time for congress to appoint
> another body to remove Trump (not just the cabinet) as they are allowed by
> the 25th. I guess a filibuster would prevent it regardless of who leads
> the Senate.
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> Douglas R Hess
>
> Assistant Professor, Political Science/Policy Studies
>
> Grinnell College
>
> *On sabbatical until fall 2021*
>
> *My latest op-ed using Grinnell College National Poll:
> https://bit.ly/hesshess102020
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bit.ly_hesshess102020&d=DwMF-g&c=HUrdOLg_tCr0UMeDjWLBOM9lLDRpsndbROGxEKQRFzk&r=xr_OjwGHtP-zw6I-DJj_MQ4cusLbiVT1bScGa0c8ZJo&m=dXZM4tpxFXFvKy-7t1rx-Z0AitRF-OviHs8UqeyfOfM&s=mBM5Cq8f_zPwmo878qUmJZmo8r1l1DPnblXcFM_BgCg&e=>
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> *Website: http://www.douglasrhess.com
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> *From:* Vladeck, Stephen I <SVladeck at law.utexas.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:21 PM
> *To:* Pildes, Rick <rick.pildes at nyu.edu>; Hess, Douglas (Doug) <
> HESSDOUG at Grinnell.EDU>; Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* RE: when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
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> But there won’t be any change in leadership, at the earliest, before
> January 20—since Pence will still be the presiding officer through then. So
> even once the GA Senators are seated, McConnell is still in charge until
> Harris is sworn in.
>
>
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> *From:* Law-election <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu> *On
> Behalf Of *Pildes, Rick
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:19 PM
> *To:* Hess, Douglas (Doug) <HESSDOUG at Grinnell.EDU>; Election Law Listserv
> <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [EL] when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
>
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> As soon as the state canvass and certification process is completed.  I am
> not certain how long it will take GA to do that, since these are the only
> two races they have to deal with.  I would think at least a week though.
> And I assume Perdue will go to the courts.
>
>
>
> *From:* Law-election [mailto:law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu
> <law-election-bounces at department-lists.uci.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Hess,
> Douglas (Doug)
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 2:15 PM
> *To:* Election Law Listserv <law-election at uci.edu>
> *Subject:* [EL] when will new vote on Senate leaders occur?
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>
>
> When will the new GA Senators take their seats and a new vote on Senate
> leaders take place?
>
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> Douglas R Hess
>
> Assistant Professor, Political Science/Policy Studies
>
> Grinnell College
>
> *On sabbatical until fall 2021*
>
> *My latest op-ed using Grinnell College National Poll:
> https://bit.ly/hesshess102020
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bit.ly_hesshess102020&d=DwMFAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=v3oz9bpMizgP1T8KwLv3YT-_iypxaOkdtbkRAclgHRk&m=0sI_3Z9ZwIPhJ_goqFjuoUAIU8XjgIzsPDA3xJs7xGY&s=njRjD9M4ZfoSpAmH37hvYp4qtdg8d1LpalbnsAh8l_o&e=>
> *
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> *Website: http://www.douglasrhess.com
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