Subject: Re: Alaska, Instant Runoff and "one person, one vote"
From: "Tom Round (home)" <T.Round@mailbox.gu.edu.au>
Date: 9/9/2002, 8:47 AM
To: election-law@majordomo.lls.edu

Thanks, Graeme.  This claim that instant runoff (IRO) (aka Alternative Vote/ majority-preferential voting) "violates one person, one vote" is puzzling. Does the League of Women Voters also claim that the two-poll runoffs more commonly used in the Lower 48 are unconstitutional? (Hard to maintain, if so, given that the US Constn lays down a form of runoff election for the President and VP by the Electoral College and Congress). Does the LWV argue that a California voter casting, in effect, 40-plus votes to elect 40-plus Presidential Electors "violates one person, one vote"? If no to either or both these questions, then how exactly does the LWV interpret "one person, one vote"?

This shows the danger of thinking in slogans -- of treating a simplistic phrase or cliche as a legal litmus test rather than an abbreviation for purposes of political debate. A more nuanced and accurate view of the body US constl jurisprudence that is summed up by this convenient but limited slogan would be something like ...

        "Deliberate legal inequality, or avoidable de factor inequality, among voters within the same State is unconstl"

-- with the proviso that

        "A State is entitled to divide itself into electoral districts [not exceeding the number of seats, I guess -- hence no more unit rule for gubernatorial elections], notwithstanding that this inherently creates some de facto inequality among voters."

The absolute number of votes per se is irrelevant. What matters is that votes must be distributed and weighted equally. Judged this way, it is plain that IRO does not over- or under-weight the voting power of any identifiable group. If 100 people vote using IRO, there are 100 valid votes in play at the first count and still 100 at the end (barring any votes that exhaust due to running out of further preferences).

Perhaps it is not fully appreciated by critics that a minor-party supporter's second or third-choice vote is _only_ counted when, and because, her first-choice candidate can't win and so is eliminated. IRO is a single-seat version of the system called "SINGLE Transferable Vote".

Of course, one might still argue that IRO is _politically_ undesirable. Frequent Australian objections are that it encourages parties to make unprincipled deals "swapping preferences" with each other, and that a candidate can win with a very low first-preference vote that isn't even a plurality. One egregious example saw a candidate with about 16% of first-choice votes defeat, after re-allocation of preferences, a rival with about 48%! Political scientists can construct plausible scenarioes where the result is entirely changed if a small shift of votes changes the order in which the lowest candidates are eliminated. But these cases are very rare. And they're very different from making out that IRO is some kind of latter-day plural voting system.

Anyway, I supose the voters have spoken and the horse has bolted. But better luck next time if Alaska votes again on IRO. Hopefully this particular canard will be deservedly dropped.

At 09:58 27-08-02 +1000, Graeme Orr wrote:

The 'alternative' or 'instant run off' vote - better known as 'preferential voting' in these parts - has been well-established in Australia for nigh on a century.  Its constitutionality has never really been doubted, as a litigant in person found out in our highest court recently: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/cases/cth/high%5fct/1999/41.html?query=%22preferential+voting%22

Yes, preferential voting deals minor parties into the equation in important ways (and gives voters subtler and fairer choices, which some believe distort the process of choosing).   It leads to horse-trading over recommendation of preferences and deals between sympatico parties - eg over the manning of polling booths to hand out 'how-to-vote' (HTV) cards, which recommend preference flows, and in worst cases, 'sham' HTVs masquerading as rival party's preference recommendations.

It probably won't lead to any more minor parties being elected, except in districts where they already have such concentrated strength that they could currently run second:  in those cases they may succeed on 2nd preferences of the least favoured major party supporters who otherwise might not feel able to give them a 'tactical' 1st preference.  Whether pref voting increases 'negative' voting as opposed to first pas the post is a moot point.    My colleague Tom Round could give a deeper account for the merits (or lack of them) of preferential voting in 3rd party representation.

Graeme Orr
Lecturer, Law
Griffith University
Brisbane 4111
Australia

"Dan Johnson-Weinberger" <proportionalrepresentation@msn.com>
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Subject: Re: Alaska Voters to Consider Adding Instant Runoffs to Elections


Or as we say in the campaign, the lies that the League of Women Voters is spreading. . .

;-)

For the constitutionality of instant runoff voting, please see the campaign's rebuttal statement:

http://www.alaskanforvotersrights.com/rebuttal.htm

Dan Johnson-Weinberger
National Field Director
Center for Voting and Democracy


Note the interesting quote from the League of Women Voters
president claiming that IRV appears to violate one person,
one vote.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-instant25aug25.story

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