Subject: RE:
From: "Smith, Brad" <BSmith@law.capital.edu>
Date: 9/29/2005, 7:54 PM
To: "Trevor Potter" <TP@capdale.com>, election-law@majordomo.lls.edu



Perhaps more specificity would alleviate Adam's concerns.  Does Duncan Black's Web site get the press exemption?  Does Daily Kos?  This might help focus the discussion and let us know if Adam is right to be concerned.

- Brad Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-election-law_gl@majordomo.lls.edu on behalf of Trevor Potter
Sent: Thu 9/29/2005 6:37 PM
To: election-law@majordomo.lls.edu
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Adam:

        1.) You say "And to my knowledge, neither CLC nor Democracy21 nor IPDI nor anyone
        else has pointed to an existing blog that *wouldn't* merit the
        exemption..." SEE Comments, attached, filed with FEC in AOR 2005-16 
         
        2.) You say " could you
        explain why writers for an Internet site that is incorporated for
        liability purposes should be treated any differently from writers for a
        newspaper which has incorporated for liability purposes?"
        

        The answer is simply that the newspaper most likely qualifies for the press exemption, and the blog site may or may not. Put differently, they aren't treated differently--both incorporated entities are subject to the same corporate prohibitions unless exempt under the "press" clause. What Congress and the Courts have said so far is that not every incorporated entity  (or even every incorporated entity claiming to be "the press") is in fact exempt from the corporate prohibition merely by styling themselves as "press". 


                -----Original Message----- 
                From: owner-election-law_gl@majordomo.lls.edu on behalf of Bonin, Adam C. 
                Sent: Thu 9/29/2005 5:54 PM 
                To: election-law@majordomo.lls.edu 
                Cc: 
                Subject: RE: McCain statement on Internet regulation
                
                

                I guess I just don't understand how a case-by-case approach is at all
                well suited for the unsophisticated, un-moneyed speakers we're largely
                dealing with here.  These are people who don't have the foggiest idea
                how to file for an advisory opinion and, quite frankly, there's only one
                of me to go around (and I can't go around all the time doing pro bono
                work).
                
                And to my knowledge, neither CLC nor Democracy21 nor IPDI nor anyone
                else has pointed to an existing blog that *wouldn't* merit the
                exemption, given how broadly the rule has been interpreted (I'm thinking
                especially of Advisory Opinion 1980-109, regarding a newsletter that did
                fundraising, as well as the MTV case.)  As long as a website isn't owned
                or controlled by a regulated entity (candidate/party/PAC/etc.), under
                what possible circumstances could it not merit the exception?
                
                By forcing this into a case-by-case exemption instead of focusing on
                already-regulated entities, you're bringing literally millions of people
                within FEC scrutiny who otherwise would have no reason to know that a
                company called "Phillips Publishing" ever existed.  The idea that we're
                going to take the people who are spending the least money on political
                activity (yet still have a potentially transformative effect thereupon)
                and forcing them to figure out which FEC-granted box they're going to
                squeeze into . . . As Ricky Watters said following his first
                Philadelphia Eagles game, "For who?  For what?" 
                
                By the way, thank you for explaining to me that "Much law (not just
                election law) is based on distinction by  category [sic]".  I must have
                missed that day in law school.  With that out of the way, could you
                explain why writers for an Internet site that is incorporated for
                liability purposes should be treated any differently from writers for a
                newspaper which has incorporated for liability purposes?
                
                
                --Adam
                
                -----Original Message-----
                From: Trevor Potter [mailto:TP@Capdale.com]
                Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:37 PM
                To: Bonin, Adam C.; election-law@majordomo.lls.edu
                Subject: RE: McCain statement on Internet regulation
                
                
                Adam:
                Speaking only for myself, here are a couple of thoughts in response to
                your questions:
                1.) "Opposing granting bloggers easy access to the media exemption" is
                not the same as opposing all such access.As you know from reading CLC's
                filings (I assume you read them as you link to them in your post), many
                blogs may qualify as media entities--but that is not automatic under the
                FEC's caselaw, and that seems the right balence .
                2.) As CLC argued to the Commission, the individual volunteer exemption
                should be construed broadly--which is likely to cover the vast majority
                of bloggers. The June CLC Comments explain how the exemption should work
                in detail.
                3.) Much law (not just election law) is based on distinction by
                catagory, such as whether someone has voluntarily chosen  the privileges
                and responsibilities of a corporate form of doing business. Incorporated
                entities are treated differently under the election laws. That does not
                mean they are necessarily doing anything prohibited by the rules, but
                rather changes the question from whether they have an individual
                volunteer exemption to whether they are aiding a candidate in their
                normal course of busineess (such as by selling services), or are acting
                as a press entity (see above).
                
                Trevor Potter
                
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: owner-election-law_gl@majordomo.lls.edu on behalf of
                Bonin, Adam C.
                        Sent: Thu 9/29/2005 2:49 PM
                        To: election-law@majordomo.lls.edu
                        Cc:
                        Subject: RE: McCain statement on Internet regulation
                       
                       
                
                        Trevor, do you, Sen. McCain or any other pro-regulation types
                have any
                        thoughts on what specific regulation would protect "bloggers"
                (and other
                        new Internet speech forms, like podcasting?) but exclude
                everything you
                        want to exclude, given that the CLC opposes granting bloggers
                easy
                        access to the media exception?  Do you really want every kid
                with a
                        keyboard to have to file for an Advisory Opinion on a
                case-by-case
                        basis?  And what happens to group or incorporated blogs?
                        (http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/attachments/1381.pdf)
                       
                        Also, when are you going to go after Sean Hannity's media
                exception?
                        http://mediamatters.org/items/200509200007?is_gsa=1&final=1
                       
                       
                        Adam C. Bonin
                        Cozen O'Connor
                        1900 Market Street
                        Philadelphia, PA  19103
                        Phone: (215) 665-2051
                        Fax: (215) 701-2321
                       
                       
                        
                       
                        From: owner-election-law_gl@majordomo.lls.edu
                        [mailto:owner-election-law_gl@majordomo.lls.edu] On Behalf Of
                Trevor
                        Potter
                        Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:51 PM
                        To: election-law@majordomo.lls.edu
                        Subject: RE: McCain statement on Internet regulation
                       
                       
                        For technological reasons I cannot explain, my machine sent my
                message
                        to the List Serve with no text. Let me try again: here it is:
                       
                        Following the hearings of the House Administration Committee
                last week,
                        Senator McCain has written that Committee to oppose proposals
                that would
                        exempt "public communications" on the Internet from BCRA. This
                is an
                        issue currently remanded to the FEC for Rulemaking by the DC
                District
                        Court, and the subject of several proposals in Congress. McCain
                argues
                        that the legislative proposals would allow soft money back into
                federal
                        elections.
                        http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/attachments/1427.pdf
                       
                   


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