Subject: Re: predicting the votes in the Supreme Court in the Texas case
From: Rick Hasen
Date: 3/2/2006, 9:15 AM
To: Edward Foley
CC: election-law <election-law@majordomo.lls.edu>

Thanks Ned.  And what to make of Justice Souter's comments at argument: “It is impossible to take partisanship out of a political process,” Souter said. If politics is a sole basis of challenge, he said, ” I don’t see why that does not imply the illegitimacy of any redistricting at any time.”

Could he have changed his views from Vieth, providing a fifth vote for nonjusticiability of such claims?

Rick

Edward Foley wrote:
Here's a response to Rick's question that others might find useful; by the way I share Bob Bauer's sentiment that the Texas case was exceptionally well-argued by all attorneys yesterday.  It really was a pleasure to watch such superb advocacy--an especially impressive feat given the two-hour duration.  finally, on the topic of trying to predict results, I recall the sentiment of many leaving the Courtroom after McConnell that the soft-money provisions likely would be invalidated and the electioneering communication provisions definitely would be.  I, for one, was certainly surprised with the McConnell results, especially on the latter part of the case.  So we could be in for some surprises here as well -- Ned

So, from my reading of the second hand reports, it sounds like the Justices were leaning in the following directions:

1. No majority to find a partisan gerrymander (under equal protection, First Amendment, or any other clause of the Constitution) ---apparently this leaves Vieth in place, because it does not appear that Justice Kennedy was signalling he's ready to vote for nonjusticiablity  DISTIGUISH BETWEEN STATEWIDE GERRYMANDER CLAIM THAT JACKSON PLAINTIFFS MADE, COMPARED TO DISTRICT-SPECIFIC PARTISAN GERRYMANDER CLAIMS THAT STEVENS WISHED TO PURSUE; FOR MORE ON THIS, SEE MY SECOND SUBMISSION ON THE ARGUMENT: http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/etable06/060302-foley01.php
2. No majority to hold that mid-decade redistricting violates one person, one vote because of the failure to use updated census data AGREE.
3. No majority to find a Shaw violation (maybe that gets only Justice Kennedy's vote) AGREE, ALTHOUGH THOMAS'S SILENCE IS INTRIGUING; GINSBURG AND ALITO ALSO SILENT ON THIS, BUT SEEMS UNLIKELY GINSBURG WOULD BE SYMPATHETIC.  IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE CHIEF MIGHT BE INTERESTED; HE RAISED SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS, WITHOUT INDICATING EITHER ENTHUSIASM OR ADVERSAL
4. A possible majority to hold that one or two districts violates section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, but no majority to hold that coalitional or influence disticts count for section 2 purposes (and a possible majority to affirmatively reject that stand).  DISTINGUISH BETWEEN EFFECT-BASED SECTION 2 CLAIMS FROM INTENT-BASED DILUTION CLAIMS.    MORES DETAIL IN SECOND SUBMSSION REFERENCED ABOVE.

Is is how those who attend the oral argument see things as going?  HOPE THIS HELPS. -- NED

Rick


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Edward B. Foley
Director, Election Law @ Moritz, and
Robert M. Duncan/Jones Day Designated Professor of Law

The Ohio State University, Moritz College of Law
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Edward B. Foley
Director, Election Law @ Moritz, and
Robert M. Duncan/Jones Day Designated Professor of Law

The Ohio State University, Moritz College of Law
phone: (614) 292-4288; e-mail: foley.33@osu.edu
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/


-- 
Rick Hasen 
William H. Hannon Distinguished Professor of Law
Loyola Law School 
919 Albany Street 
Los Angeles, CA  90015-1211 
(213)736-1466 - voice 
(213)380-3769 - fax 
rick.hasen@lls.edu 
http://www.lls.edu/academics/faculty/hasen.html 
http://electionlawblog.org