That statement was of
course a shorthand for saying that there's no proof they've taken
a penny of foreign money to use in their political operations.
Here's my quote from the Times: “I’ve seen no proof of the
chamber funneling a penny of foreign money into U.S. elections.”
On 10/11/2010 8:59 AM, David Donnelly wrote:
Re: [EL] Foreign Money
Rick writes,
As I
told the NY Times, there's no proof that the Chamber
has taken a penny of foreign money.
The Chamber themselves admit to taking foreign money. They’ve
admitted to taking dues from their foreign affiliates and dues
from a “relative handful” of members who are foreign
corporations. They have not answered questions about whether
they’ve taken direct contributions from foreign corporations,
repeating consistently that a) we ought to trust them and
their internal controls, and b) they aren’t answering any more
questions.
DD
On 10/10/10 2:18 PM, "Smith, Brad" <BSmith@law.capital.edu>
wrote:
"It Appears They've Even Taken
Secret Foreign Money to Influence Our Elections"
That's the unsubstantiated charge
in a new DNC ad <https://webmail.capital.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-dnc-ad-accuses-karl-rove-and-ed-gillespie-of-stealing-our-democracy/>
, "Stealing Democracy," against the Republicans and the
Chamber.
As I told <https://webmail.capital.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09donate.html?_r=1%26partner=rss%26emc=rss>
the NY Times, there's no proof that the Chamber has
taken a penny of foreign money. But there's no way for us to
know whether the Chamber, or anyone else engaged in
election-related activity, is improperly using foreign
money, unless we allow the FEC or another government agency
the ability to audit the records of the political activities
of such agencies. (These audits would not be made public
unless there was proof of wrongdoing, and groups facing
harassment should be exempt from the requirement).
**One other quick point on this: What Rick describes
has been the case ever since foreign money was first
prohibited (with arguably a de jure, but probably not de
facto, exception for 3 years in the latter 1970s). It
is also the case as to many other provisions of the
FECA, most state campaign finance laws, and indeed many
other general laws. For years there has been no way to
know if independent spenders were using illegal union
money, illegal corporate money, illegal foreign money,
or simply underreporting their expenditures. As Rick
points out, the logic of the complaint against the
Chamber applies to anyone (and everyone) else, too.
Right now there is no way for us to know if my
university is not illegally pouring undisclosed sums
into some of Ohio's close political races, without
allowing the FEC or another government agency to audit
its political activities. To some, this will be
evidence of the need for disclosure. For others, this
will be evidence that the alleged problem is vastly
overblown.
Bradley A. Smith
Josiah H. Blackmore II/Shirley M. Nault Designated
Professor of Law
Capital University Law School
303 E. Broad St.
Columbus, OH 43215
(614) 236-6317
http://www.law.capital.edu/Faculty/Bios/bsmith.asp
From: election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu
on behalf of Rick Hasen
Sent: Sun 10/10/2010 1:09 PM
To: Election Law
Subject: [EL] Electionlawblog news and commentary
10/10/10
October 10, 2010
Final Version of My California Law Review Book Review of Heather Gerken's
Democracy Index <http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8865.html>
Now Available
You can find
Election Administration Reform and the New Institutionalism
<http://www.californialawreview.org/assets/pdfs/98-3/Hasen.FINAL.pdf>
at 98 California Law Review 1075 (2010).
Posted by Rick Hasen at 10:08 AM <http://electionlawblog.org/archives/017305.html>
"Report:
Dems planted NJ tea party House candidate"
AP offers
this report <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/09/AR2010100903311.html>
.
Posted by Rick Hasen at 10:03 AM <http://electionlawblog.org/archives/017304.html>
"It
Appears They've Even Taken Secret Foreign Money to
Influence Our Elections"
That's
the unsubstantiated charge in a new DNC ad <http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-dnc-ad-accuses-karl-rove-and-ed-gillespie-of-stealing-our-democracy/>
, "Stealing Democracy," against the Republicans and the
Chamber.
As I told <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09donate.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss>
the NY Times, there's no proof that the Chamber has
taken a penny of foreign money. But there's no way for us to
know whether the Chamber, or anyone else engaged in
election-related activity, is improperly using foreign
money, unless we allow the FEC or another government agency
the ability to audit the records of the political activities
of such agencies. (These audits would not be made public
unless there was proof of wrongdoing, and groups facing
harassment should be exempt from the requirement).
I'll have more to say on the foreign money issue tomorrow in
Slate.
Posted by Rick Hasen at 10:00 AM <http://electionlawblog.org/archives/017303.html>
Linda
Greenhouse on Justice Breyer and Statutory
Interpretation
Here <http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/making-congress-all-it-can-be/>
.
Posted by Rick Hasen at 09:51 AM <http://electionlawblog.org/archives/017302.html>
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