Subject: [EL] Republicans got sigs for Nader in 2004 only in Michigan
From: Richard Winger
Date: 10/24/2010, 11:23 AM
To: Rob Richie <rr@fairvote.org>, Election Law <election-law@mailman.lls.edu>, Trevor Potter <TP@capdale.com>
Reply-to:
"richardwinger@yahoo.com"

Michigan is the only state in which Republicans gathered signatures for Nader in 2004 (or any other year in which he ran).

And Nader got his highest percentage of the vote in Michigan in 2004 in an upper peninsula county which voted for George Bush, which is consistent with election returns all over the nation for Nader in 2004.  In 3/4ths of the states, Nader's best county percentagewise was a county which was more pro-Bush than that state as a whole.  Nader's best county in the U.S. was a very Republican-leaning county in southern Utah.  His best state in 2004 was Alaska.

--- On Sun, 10/24/10, Trevor Potter <TP@capdale.com> wrote:

From: Trevor Potter <TP@capdale.com>
Subject: Re: [EL] Rick's entry - "Seeking Edge on G.O.P., Democrats Back Third Parties"
To: "Rob Richie" <rr@fairvote.org>, "Election Law" <election-law@mailman.lls.edu>
Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 9:52 AM


Also relevant is the history of Republican party officials  helping gather signatures to get Ralph Nader on the ballot in states in previous Presidential elections. Neither side has very clean hands here.
Trevor Potter

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-----Original Message-----
From:     Rob Richie [mailto:rr@fairvote.org]
Sent:    Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:58 AM Eastern Standard Time
To:    Election Law
Subject:    [EL] Rick's entry - "Seeking Edge on G.O.P.,Democrats Back Third Parties"

Rick's highlighting of this Page 1 story in the *New York Times..*

*"Seeking Edge on G.O.P., Democrats Back Third Parties*" :  More great
> election reporting<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/us/politics/23dems.html?ref=politics>
> .
>

... follows another Page 1 *Times* story a few weeks ago on the Republicans
doing this same tactic in Arizona. And of course we also see the major
parties sometimes devoting great energy to keeping legitimate third party
and independent party candidates off the ballot and out of debates.

Both of these problematic actions are tied directly to the fact that we
generally rely on first-past-the-post, plurality voting that easily can go
haywire when voters have more than two choices. The rest of the world has
largely figured out to handle this problem by using a majority system,
either through traditional runoff elections or through instant runoff voting
/ ranked choice voting. Most presidential elections must win in runoffs, as
in Brazil's current elections, and some use instant runoffs -- and the UK
will vote on it next year to replace plurality for the House of Commons.

The US has a good experience with runoffs, including in a number of early
congressional elections and today in Washington State, in several states for
primaries and many cities for mayor. We're also seeing more interesting uses
of instant runoff voting, with a lot of interesting coverage of the first
use of IRV for mayor in Oakland this fall and for a statewide judicial
office in North Carolina Below are links to a Newsweek story about instant
runoff voting, and two important "transpartisan" op-eds in favor if it this
weekend in Minneapolis and St. Paul -- Minneapolis used it in city elections
last fall, St. Paul adopted in a ballot measure and the state has an
entrenched multi-party reality that regularly denies majority wins to
statewide elections winners.

Also, we regularly cover this issue at www.twitter.com/fairvote. You can see
a series of blogs about how lack of majority voting is playing out this fall
at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-richie/upholding-majority-rule-w_b_771892.html

- Rob Richie, FairVote

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http://www.newsweek.com/2010/10/24/north-carolina-tries-instant-runoff-voting.html

*An Electoral Experiment in North Carolina
Newsweek, October 24, 2010*

The logic of general elections is simple: winner takes all. This, of course,
can encourage nasty campaigning-and at the end of a race with more than two
candidates, the victor often wins with only a plurality (not a majority) of
support. ...[ see rest at link]

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http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentary/105442218.html?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

*As easy as 1,2,3 (and better than 'one or the other')
By George Pillsbury, Nate Garvis and Tim Penny*
Minneapolis Star Tribune, October 23, 2010

The usual "spoiler" accusations being leveled at gubernatorial candidate Tom
Horner and his supporters -- by both Republican and DFL camps -- illustrate
why, more than ever, Minnesota needs ranked-choice voting...[see rest at
link]

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http://www.twincities.com/ci_16400194?IADID=

*Latimer, Stringer, Penny: Minnesota needs a 'ranked choice' voting system
By George Latimer, Tim Penny and Ed Stringer*
October 22, 2010

When we began talking about Ranked Choice Voting (or Instant Runoff Voting)
a few years ago, there were a lot of questions about whether and how it
could work. Those have been answered by Minneapolis' highly successful
rollout last year - with just one spoiled ballot and 95 percent of voters
reporting it was easy to use - and we're confident RCV's debut in St. Paul
next year will be just as smooth and well-recieived... [see rest at lnk]




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