Subject: Re: [EL] California redistricting commission
From: James Lacy
Date: 11/8/2010, 1:17 PM
To: James Fischer
CC: "<JBoppjr@aol.com>" <JBoppjr@aol.com>, "<election-law@mailman.lls.edu>" <election-law@mailman.lls.edu>

I think the Latin poet Juvenile asks a good and timeless question, below.  Why don't we just have Swedish Judges appointed by Swiss Judges draw our California congressional and assembly districts?   We will save a lot of carbon and should get a neutral result, right?  Cause they are so neutral.

James V. Lacy
Confidentiality applies

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On Nov 8, 2010, at 11:17 AM, "James Fischer" <jfischer@swlaw.edu> wrote:

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

 

From: election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu [mailto:election-law-bounces@mailman.lls.edu] On Behalf Of James Lacy
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:51 AM
To: jon.roland@constitution.org
Cc: JBoppjr@aol.com; election-law@mailman.lls.edu
Subject: Re: [EL] California redistricting commission

 

Then what we will need is an additional set of computers to program and run the computers.  The first set of commuters will need randomly selected programmers to oversee the randomly selected programers who program the first set of computers so that the work of randomly selected panels overseeing the randomly elected panels is as random as possible. 

James V. Lacy

Confidentiality applies

 

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On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Jon Roland <jon.roland@constitution.org> wrote:

On 11/08/2010 08:58 AM, JBoppjr@aol.com wrote:

It will be interesting to see how Jon's promotion of random selection works out when the Calif redistricting comm is randomly selected.  I wonder what are the efforts leading up to that to try to manipulate the process.

I got a report, as yet unconfirmed, that the framers of that reform got the idea from reading my stuff. Of course, if any process can be manipulated it will be. It had better be supervised by a grand jury for execution of the selection.

Randomly selected panels need to supervise the selection of other randomly selected panels. It is too important not to have a lot of independent people watching.

That still leaves the question of how computer mapping software is used in drawing the maps. If they do it right they will not attempt to do things like protect incumbents. Better to have little if any human input into the drawing. Let the computer do it.


-- Jon
 
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